The Gay Men Who Hate Women

[The Brain]

Why have the same queer space for gays and lesbians?

[Hamilcar]

I bet sooner or later gay men will be accused of mysogyny for refusing to have sex with women.

Fairly sure that's already been done, but I'm a) too lazy to google and b) Poe's law.

[Martinus]

Why hang out with gay men if you're a woman? I don't hang out with lesbians.

You can have friends who don't want to fuck you?

So she wrote this article to badmouth her friends?

I'm the case of the author, she seems to want queer spaces that have gay men acting in the way that she would like.

Sorry, the world does not work like this. Unless someone is breaking the law and it's not in a professional context, you can't really want people you hang out socially to be "nicer". Maybe they just don't like you, anyway.

[garbon]

Why hang out with gay men if you're a woman? I don't hang out with lesbians.

You can have friends who don't want to fuck you?

So she wrote this article to badmouth her friends?

I'm the case of the author, she seems to want queer spaces that have gay men acting in the way that she would like.

Sorry, the world does not work like this. Unless someone is breaking the law and it's not in a professional context, you can't really want people you hang out socially to be "nicer". Maybe they just don't like you, anyway.

Actually you can want it and you are free to voice your wants. Doesn't mean they will change.

[Martinus]

Why have the same queer space for gays and lesbians?

We don't. I maybe met two lesbians in my life. Absolutely nothing in common.

[Martinus]

Why hang out with gay men if you're a woman? I don't hang out with lesbians.

You can have friends who don't want to fuck you?

So she wrote this article to badmouth her friends?

I'm the case of the author, she seems to want queer spaces that have gay men acting in the way that she would like.

Sorry, the world does not work like this. Unless someone is breaking the law and it's not in a professional context, you can't really want people you hang out socially to be "nicer". Maybe they just don't like you, anyway.

Actually you can want it and you are free to voice your wants. Doesn't mean they will change.

Why bother? Just find people you like hanging out with instead. Unless you are a feminazi dyke who is hated by everyone and thus have to express your bitterness by online bitching that is.

[Martinus]

I mean, when people you do not have to hang out with are mean and rude to you, there are only two sensible options for a well adjusted adult human being.


You either stop interacting with them or (especially when it seems like most or all people seem rude or mean to you) you adjust your behaviour as apparently something about you makes people mean and rude. Bitching and complaining about it is really not a productive behaviour.

[garbon]

Why hang out with gay men if you're a woman? I don't hang out with lesbians.

You can have friends who don't want to fuck you?

So she wrote this article to badmouth her friends?

I'm the case of the author, she seems to want queer spaces that have gay men acting in the way that she would like.

Sorry, the world does not work like this. Unless someone is breaking the law and it's not in a professional context, you can't really want people you hang out socially to be "nicer". Maybe they just don't like you, anyway.

Actually you can want it and you are free to voice your wants. Doesn't mean they will change.

Why bother? Just find people you like hanging out with instead. Unless you are a feminazi dyke who is hated by everyone and thus have to express your bitterness by online bitching that is.

There could be people she likes at gay bars? Doesn't mean she is happy with other patrons being rude to her.

[The Brain]

So her friends drag her (gettit?) to places she doesn't enjoy, and she communicates with her friends by bitching on the internet? Makes sense to me.

[garbon]

So her friends drag her (gettit?) to places she doesn't enjoy, and she communicates with her friends by bitching on the internet? Makes sense to me.

Actually she might enjoy the places apart from some of the 'misbehaving' patrons.

Also, to your earlier question, I think most queer places that can manage to survive are full of gay men. Lesbian bars have been closing left, right and center.

[Martinus]

So her friends drag her (gettit?) to places she doesn't enjoy, and she communicates with her friends by bitching on the internet? Makes sense to me.

Actually she might enjoy the places apart from some of the 'misbehaving' patrons.

Also, to your earlier question, I think most queer places that can manage to survive are full of gay men. Lesbian bars have been closing left, right and center.

So, her problem is with free market, then? Maybe she should attend power tools exhibitions and crotchet workshops?

[Legbiter]

Some of the worst misogyny I've experienced has come from gay men. It can feel almost more gross than it does from straight men. It's like, you're not even trying to express sexual interest in me, you're just asserting your dominance over my body just because you're a man—you're just doing it because you can."

"Even gay men desire my body, ugh, I'm so hot". Goddamn humblebrag couched in postmodern victim complex bullshit. Stopped reading right there.

[garbon]

So her friends drag her (gettit?) to places she doesn't enjoy, and she communicates with her friends by bitching on the internet? Makes sense to me.

Actually she might enjoy the places apart from some of the 'misbehaving' patrons.

Also, to your earlier question, I think most queer places that can manage to survive are full of gay men. Lesbian bars have been closing left, right and center.

So, her problem is with free market, then? Maybe she should attend power tools exhibitions and crotchet workshops?

Do you think those sound fun?

[Legbiter]

I mean, when people you do not have to hang out with are mean and rude to you, there are only two sensible options for a well adjusted adult human being.


You either stop interacting with them or (especially when it seems like most or all people seem rude or mean to you) you adjust your behaviour as apparently something about you makes people mean and rude. Bitching and complaining about it is really not a productive behaviour.

There may be a small teeny tiny morsel of truth to her article in that gay men often accumulate fag hags as hangers-on by not taking women overly seriously and amusingly teasing them in that bratty younger sister kind of way.

[Martinus]

So her friends drag her (gettit?) to places she doesn't enjoy, and she communicates with her friends by bitching on the internet? Makes sense to me.

Actually she might enjoy the places apart from some of the 'misbehaving' patrons.

Also, to your earlier question, I think most queer places that can manage to survive are full of gay men. Lesbian bars have been closing left, right and center.

So, her problem is with free market, then? Maybe she should attend power tools exhibitions and crotchet workshops?

Do you think those sound fun?

I don't know - but seriously, that's the crux of the problem isn't it? - she is complaining that there aren't enough places that cater to her specific needs. We live in a free capitalist world. There are only two ways of addressing this - either you start a place you like or pay someone to do so.

It's no different than complaining that your neighbourhood place does not carry a specific item you want.