The Gay Men Who Hate Women

[Martinus]

I mean, when people you do not have to hang out with are mean and rude to you, there are only two sensible options for a well adjusted adult human being.


You either stop interacting with them or (especially when it seems like most or all people seem rude or mean to you) you adjust your behaviour as apparently something about you makes people mean and rude. Bitching and complaining about it is really not a productive behaviour.

There may be a small teeny tiny morsel of truth to her article in that gay men often accumulate fag hags as hangers-on by not taking women overly seriously and amusingly teasing them in that bratty younger sister kind of way.

Yeah but then again, so what? Gay men generally tend to be bitchy assholish drama queens. Either you like it or you don't (it tends to get grating over extended periods of time). Her complaint is that she wants to have gay friends, but ones who act nice. It's worthy of a 10 year old. 

[garbon]

I mean, when people you do not have to hang out with are mean and rude to you, there are only two sensible options for a well adjusted adult human being.


You either stop interacting with them or (especially when it seems like most or all people seem rude or mean to you) you adjust your behaviour as apparently something about you makes people mean and rude. Bitching and complaining about it is really not a productive behaviour.

There may be a small teeny tiny morsel of truth to her article in that gay men often accumulate fag hags as hangers-on by not taking women overly seriously and amusingly teasing them in that bratty younger sister kind of way.

Yeah but then again, so what? Gay men generally tend to be bitchy assholish drama queens. Either you like it or you don't (it tends to get grating over extended periods of time). Her complaint is that she wants to have gay friends, but ones who act nice. It's worthy of a 10 year old. 

Just because you are a dick that doesn't mean that all gay men are.

[Legbiter]

Yeah but then again, so what? Gay men generally tend to be bitchy assholish drama queens.

Might be on to something. The typist in question. 

[Martinus]

Wait, we are getting worked over an article written by a dude? Talk about mansplaining.

[garbon]

Wait, we are getting worked over an article written by a dude? Talk about mansplaining.

Maybe you've just difficulty with reading: "I have a male body, I'm bisexual, and I'm also genderqueer."

And many of the quotes are from "Victoria Sin is a queer woman living in London and a female drag queen"

[Legbiter]

Wait, we are getting worked over an article written by a dude? Talk about mansplaining.

Careful there. 

[Martinus]

Wait, we are getting worked over an article written by a dude? Talk about mansplaining.

Maybe you've just difficulty with reading: "I have a male body, I'm bisexual, and I'm also genderqueer."

And many of the quotes are from "Victoria Sin is a queer woman living in London and a female drag queen"

I just read the bolded part. It was so moronic, I did not really read any other part of the article.

And sorry, honey, but "genderqueer" isn't a thing, other than to say "look at me, I'm an attention whore."

It's a dude with a bad make-up.

[Hamilcar]

Wait, we are getting worked over an article written by a dude? Talk about mansplaining.

Maybe you've just difficulty with reading: "I have a male body, I'm bisexual, and I'm also genderqueer."

And many of the quotes are from "Victoria Sin is a queer woman living in London and a female drag queen"

I've seen it argued that many of these people are just autistic and can't get the hand of social cues dealing with gender. Now they can even be special victim sneauflaykes.

[Martinus]

So wait, let me get this straight, it's a cross-dressing guy complaining that people are not sensitive enough to his femininity when he is in drag, right?

garbo, dear, the gender liberation movement may have its faults, but it has some valid points nonetheless - please don't try to discredit it completely like this any more. There are enough people making it a laughingstock already. 

[LaCroix]

Some of the worst misogyny I've experienced has come from gay men. It can feel almost more gross than it does from straight men. It's like, you're not even trying to express sexual interest in me, you're just asserting your dominance over my body just because you're a man—you're just doing it because you can."

"Even gay men desire my body, ugh, I'm so hot". Goddamn humblebrag couched in postmodern victim complex bullshit. Stopped reading right there.

exhibit B

anyway, @thread, my girlfriend has experienced this from a gay coworker. though I don't think it's an act of asserting dominance.

[garbon]

garbo, dear, the gender liberation movement may have its faults, but it has some valid points nonetheless - please don't try to discredit it completely like this any more. There are enough people making it a laughingstock already. 

Maybe you need to read the warning I wrote for Berkut?

[Martinus]

garbo, dear, the gender liberation movement may have its faults, but it has some valid points nonetheless - please don't try to discredit it completely like this any more. There are enough people making it a laughingstock already. 

Maybe you need to read the warning I wrote for Berkut?

I don't read messages meant for other people - it's impolite.

[Sheilbh]

Some good points. Gay men can be exceptionally misogynistic and I am always very uncomfortable with the liberties gay men take with women.

We don't. I maybe met two lesbians in my life. Absolutely nothing in common.

Gay men are ten a penny and really often pretty interchangeable. I never forget a lesbian - they are wonderful

[garbon]

I hate the liberties straight women take with gay men. Bitch, I don't know you.

[Sheilbh]

I hate the liberties straight women take with gay men. Bitch, I don't know you.

Also true

Though in my experience they're not gropey as gay men can be. There's just more of an assumption that we're interested