Acts of Terrorism megathread

[dps]

Not commented on was what they had done for the last 50 years to be so disfavoured by God.

Tried to corner the world-wide silver market.

[Valmy]

Well cults ruin lives in my country all the time. Many flavors of Islam have that kind of thing going on.

The owner of the Chiefs proclaimed that his team won the Superbowl because God blessed his family.  The players may also have had something to do with it but that seemed to be a secondary factor in the mind of the owner.  Really it was all about him and his family.

Not commented on was what they had done for the last 50 years to be so disfavoured by God.

I mean...sure. Some people might think Andy Reid is some sort of God.

[Razgovory]

https://humanists.international/2020/01/jesuismila-how-muslim-fundamentalists-ruined-the-life-of-a-french-girl/?lang=nl

islamic terror doesn't only work with bombs to destroy our free societies.

Yeah, it also inspires ethno-nationalist demagogues to make sure free societies don't remain that way.

[crazy canuck]

Well cults ruin lives in my country all the time. Many flavors of Islam have that kind of thing going on.

The owner of the Chiefs proclaimed that his team won the Superbowl because God blessed his family.  The players may also have had something to do with it but that seemed to be a secondary factor in the mind of the owner.  Really it was all about him and his family.

Not commented on was what they had done for the last 50 years to be so disfavoured by God.

I mean...sure. Some people might think Andy Reid is some sort of God.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

https://humanists.international/2020/01/jesuismila-how-muslim-fundamentalists-ruined-the-life-of-a-french-girl/?lang=nl

islamic terror doesn't only work with bombs to destroy our free societies.

Yeah, it also inspires ethno-nationalist demagogues to make sure free societies don't remain that way.

https://charliehebdo.fr/2020/01/english/english-editorial-by-riss-teenagers-to-the-stake/

[Razgovory]

[viper37]

https://humanists.international/2020/01/jesuismila-how-muslim-fundamentalists-ruined-the-life-of-a-french-girl/?lang=nl

islamic terror doesn't only work with bombs to destroy our free societies.

Yeah, it also inspires ethno-nationalist demagogues to make sure free societies don't remain that way.

https://charliehebdo.fr/2020/01/english/english-editorial-by-riss-teenagers-to-the-stake/

Don't bother.  Raz is one of those people who believe freedom of religion to be an absolute right.  If they want to make life a living hell for some teenage girl, so be it, it is their God given right.

[Valmy]

I guess I don't understand how we can't both support the rights of Muslims while also working to prevent abuses and crimes committed inside their communities. I mean surely that is also a big part of supporting Muslims (and those who choose to leave Islam).

[Razgovory]

Don't bother.  Raz is one of those people who believe freedom of religion to be an absolute right.

I love this!  I think it may be my new sig.

[viper37]

I guess I don't understand how we can't both support the rights of Muslims while also working to prevent abuses and crimes committed inside their communities. I mean surely that is also a big part of supporting Muslims (and those who choose to leave Islam).

Religion, just like capitalism, must be sometime reigned in by intervention of the State to prevent abuses.  Raz and many others believe in absolute religious freedom, and that is incompatible with my views of a society's governance.  I do not believe discrimination against homosexuals or transgenders, for example, should be tolerated just because someone's religion mandates it. 

And that's coming from a right winger frequently classified as homophobic.

[The Minsky Moment]

Not commented on was what they had done for the last 50 years to be so disfavoured by God.

Tried to corner the world-wide silver market.

Huh - never realized that family was those Hunts.  Learn something new every day. I always thought they got wiped when the corner collapsed.

[dps]

Not commented on was what they had done for the last 50 years to be so disfavoured by God.

Tried to corner the world-wide silver market.

Huh - never realized that family was those Hunts.  Learn something new every day. I always thought they got wiped when the corner collapsed.

They came pretty close.  I read that Lamar Hunt had to pawn his Super Bowl IV ring, and several family members lost their homes.

[Razgovory]

I guess I don't understand how we can't both support the rights of Muslims while also working to prevent abuses and crimes committed inside their communities. I mean surely that is also a big part of supporting Muslims (and those who choose to leave Islam).

Religion, just like capitalism, must be sometime reigned in by intervention of the State to prevent abuses.  Raz and many others believe in absolute religious freedom, and that is incompatible with my views of a society's governance.  I do not believe discrimination against homosexuals or transgenders, for example, should be tolerated just because someone's religion mandates it. 

And that's coming from a right winger frequently classified as homophobic.

Which other rights are you not a fan of?

[viper37]

Which other rights are you not a fan of?

The right to own a bazooka, a tank, a nuclear submarine, a ballistic missile launch site and that sort of things.
I never pretended to be a libertarian.

[Razgovory]

Which other rights are you not a fan of?

The right to own a bazooka, a tank, a nuclear submarine, a ballistic missile launch site and that sort of things.
I never pretended to be a libertarian.

Okay, so just the rights of to weapons, free speech and religion.  Nothing else?