Mass killing in Orlando gay nightclub

[Razgovory]

See, your problem, guys, is that you are reading Trump's shit like he was a politician. I don't think it's that.

I spoke with Jaron about it recently and he made a very interesting observation - Trump talks like someone who is not used to getting stuff he says challenged. He doesn't carefully consider his words. He talks like a boss, like a CEO (Malthus, I am sure, as a lawyer, you had clients like that). He rambles, he makes long soliloquys, he says stuff that, when taken out of context may sound stupid, but when you take it all together, it makes sense and you get what he is saying. So when he says he wants to ban Muslims entering the country "until we figure it out", I think he means it and it is not just a way to say he will never lift the ban.

Perhaps instead of judging Trump by the standards of elected officials, the standard of facts and logic, we should interpret his behavior as a form of performance art.  Instead of viewing this as a speech about banning Muslims and hinting that the President is master-minding massacres against the American people it really should be seen as acting out all the parts of "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest", simultaneously.

[Martinus]

A collage of Muslim people commenting on the attack:

[Razgovory]

A collage of Alt-Right people going on about some guy I never heard of.

[Martinus]

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orlando-nightclub-massacre/omar-mateen-s-wife-tried-talk-him-out-orlando-attack-n592051

Should she be charged?

[Valmy]

I am just glad they are not saying this was a US government plot to make Islam look bad.

LOL at an Arab calling our politics corrupt. Though that guy is probably Swedish or something.

[Valmy]

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orlando-nightclub-massacre/omar-mateen-s-wife-tried-talk-him-out-orlando-attack-n592051

Should she be charged?

I she drove him to the place to scope it out and she knew what his intentions were? Sounds like it to me. That is called being an accessory. Feel bad for the kid though.

[The Minsky Moment]

She drove him to the club "to scope it out" = overt act.

[garbon]

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orlando-nightclub-massacre/omar-mateen-s-wife-tried-talk-him-out-orlando-attack-n592051

Should she be charged?

I she drove him to the place to scope it out and she knew what his intentions were? Sounds like it to me.

Agreed.

[Martinus]

I am just glad they are not saying this was a US government plot to make Islam look bad.

I saw comments in English from people who had Arabic squiggles in their name that said just that.

[citizen k]

Feel bad for the kid though.

Keep him away from crazy Afghan grandpa. 

[Legbiter]

A collage of Muslim people commenting on the attack:

Apparently there is a running joke in the ISIS online community about "what filter are the kuffar gonna use next" after each massacre they commit.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Islam is a religion.

Islamism is a political ideology that is founded on the idea that political power, organization, etc., etc. ought to come from Islam.

in that case there's no difference between the two as Islam has that same property.
But then Islam is not purely a religion, but also an ideology.

I love the way you cut out the part of my post that addresses *exactly* your "conclusion", and clearly refutes it.

that's because nothing was refuted. the list of signatories of the Cairo Declaration on Human Rights in Islam shows how seriously we can take these 'secular' muslim majority states.

[Berkut]

A collage of Muslim people commenting on the attack:

You are such a dishonest asshole.

[11B4V]

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orlando-nightclub-massacre/omar-mateen-s-wife-tried-talk-him-out-orlando-attack-n592051

Should she be charged?

I she drove him to the place to scope it out and she knew what his intentions were? Sounds like it to me. That is called being an accessory. Feel bad for the kid though.

Oh man WTF

[Barrister]

She drove him to the club "to scope it out" = overt act.

"she tried to talk her husband out of carrying out the attack" could constitute abandonment.  It's going to depend on the specific timing of when everything went down.