(((The Jewish Cowbell))): Unpacking a Gross New Meme from the Alt-Right

[celedhring]

Yeah, I don't think we are missing on too much if we ditch racist jokes, really.

[Martinus]

No, freedom of speech should stop only short of direct incitement to violence - otherwise you will always find someone offended by something someone else says.

[LaCroix]

Maybe we stop making jokes like that?

I think a lot of people would disagree that we should persecute those who make offensive jokes

[Martinus]

Besides, the only criterion one should judge jokes against is whether they are funny. No topic should be off limits a priori.

[Martinus]

Maybe we stop making jokes like that?

I think a lot of people would disagree that we should persecute those who make offensive jokes

Pretty much anyone who believes in the inherent worth of Western civilization. Cucks, on the other hand...

[celedhring]

No, freedom of speech should stop only short of direct incitement to violence - otherwise you will always find someone offended by something someone else says.

I'm not saying we should prosecute them, just disapprove of them. I know you're a lawyer, but not everything is addressed through the criminal code.

Freedom of speech works both ways, and it includes the people that feel offended by those jokes.

[Razgovory]

Besides, the only criterion one should judge jokes against is whether they are funny. No topic should be off limits a priori.

You got on your high horse when I made jokes about Trump scum getting the shit kicked out of them.

[LaCroix]

Freedom of speech works both ways, and it includes the people that feel offended by those jokes.

the original argument was that these offensive jokes should be considered (by everyone, I guess) as if they weren't jokes but serious statements. this essentially means the obliteration of offensive joke-making

so, I don't think it's limited to just those who are offended by offensive jokes. these people already exist: prudes.

[Sheilbh]

I don't get the joke in pointing out that someone's Jewish

[Martinus]

I don't get the joke in pointing out that someone's Jewish

Fair enough. It does not automatically mean the joke is a bad one. I bet there are jokes you find funny that other people do not get (or even find them offensive).

[Sheilbh]

Sure but I can't even see the outline for a joke.

There's racist memes and stuff that I don't find funny and think offensive, but I can see how it's a joke. I literally have no idea how identifying someone as Jewish works on that level.

[Martinus]

No, freedom of speech should stop only short of direct incitement to violence - otherwise you will always find someone offended by something someone else says.

I'm not saying we should prosecute them, just disapprove of them. I know you're a lawyer, but not everything is addressed through the criminal code.

Freedom of speech works both ways, and it includes the people that feel offended by those jokes.

Sure, the question is whether it is a productive use of your time to do so. But I guess I am willing to concede that whatever floats your boat it is highly subjective and I shouldn't waste my time criticising others for wasting theirs - some people find painting miniatures rewarding; for others, virtue signalling does the trick.

[Martinus]

Sure but I can't even see the outline for a joke.

There's racist memes and stuff that I don't find funny and think offensive, but I can see how it's a joke. I literally have no idea how identifying someone as Jewish works on that level.

I suspect it's absurdist. There is probably also an element of an in-joke there. Like, Languish's "Who the fuck are you?" which is probably deeply unfunny for anyone who is not "in".

[The Brain]

Jokes are formulaic stories clearly labeled as jokes by the teller. "One-liners" etc are not funny and certainly not jokes.

[CountDeMoney]

So 1) antisemitism still exists, and 2) Europeans and racist Dumbfuckistanis are at best dismissive about it and at worse endorse it.  Holy fucking shit.