(((The Jewish Cowbell))): Unpacking a Gross New Meme from the Alt-Right

[The Minsky Moment]

I don't understand the "troll" point.  Is there any reason to think these people don't believe what they say?  Is there something about degenerate racists harassing people that somehow becomes cute or acceptable because it is done through an internet connection? 

[Razgovory]

I don't understand the "troll" point.  Is there any reason to think these people don't believe what they say?  Is there something about degenerate racists harassing people that somehow becomes cute or acceptable because it is done through an internet connection?

Oh, you'd say that wouldn't you, (((Minsky Moment))).


Seriously though, I don't see why we should just laugh this bullshit off either.  That Dylann Roof kid was like this, and he assassinated a politician and killed eight other people.

[The Minsky Moment]

Seems to me these guys are old fashioned KKK types, just emboldened and made shameless by the anonymity provided by the internet.

[Berkut]

Yep - I find the entire "Haha, they sure trolled you LOL" response only slightly less odious than the hatespeak to begin with...

[Tamas]

Seems to me these guys are old fashioned KKK types, just emboldened and made shameless by the anonymity provided by the internet.

Yes and let me tell you it is only going to get worse, because they are now realising that rallying together behind a common cause (Trump in thi case) countr-wide gives them critical mass necessary to actually influence stuff.

Happened slowly but steadily to Hungarian far-right scum over the years from the late 90s, as from their pariah status some public figures started to talk to their liking, and their style, and their "values" became sociall accepted talking points again.

[derspiess]

I agree with ||Berkut||

[lustindarkness]

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[LaCroix]

online, probably 10%~ of people who make anti-semitic remarks are actually anti-semites. people do it for laughs or to get a reaction from people--a culture of this has developed that's more similar to ginger jokes than actual racism. here, it's probably a joke/whatever because it contains the standard, "yes, yes, good goy." the actual anti-semites don't seem to really play along--their discussions tend to be more serious and filled with actual hate. contrast this with gamersgate/anti-SJW types (another subculture in the same community), who tend to be more serious in their rants against feminists, etc. there are few actual rants against jews.

[The Minsky Moment]

I haven't seen much of this kind of stuff but I do follow a bunch of econ blogs and I have noticed a recent rise in the comments sections of references to the  Bell Curve (Charles Murray) as if it were some kind of irrefutable social scientific dogma and not one of the most notorious junk statistics studies in recent history.  For the most part I don't read comments sections anymore because of the idiots/trolls.

[garbon]

I don't understand the "troll" point.  Is there any reason to think these people don't believe what they say?  Is there something about degenerate racists harassing people that somehow becomes cute or acceptable because it is done through an internet connection? 

Is it acceptable and would I put up with someone I knew who was behaving in such a fashion? No, of course not. But this is the internet and people do despicable things on it all the time. What was noted in that excerpt in OP doesn't seem to rise to the occasion of needed to take action.

[Jacob]

I don't understand the "troll" point.  Is there any reason to think these people don't believe what they say?  Is there something about degenerate racists harassing people that somehow becomes cute or acceptable because it is done through an internet connection?

In fact the troll point supports spreading of racism in this case (or homophobia or any other kind of bigotry). If you can't say it seriously, but can pass it off as "a joke" that's what you do... and you continue doing so until people have heard those jokes enough that you can start saying it seriously and not get a reaction.

[derspiess]

Pre-emptive overreaction is the key to winning, then.

[Jacob]

Pre-emptive overreaction is the key to winning, then.

I was just chatting with someone who had their name bracketed like that on twitter - by people unrelated to the conversation - for something relatively , unleashing a barrage of channer like spam, hatemail, cries of "kind and sensitive person" and "beta", and gore to their account.

I don't think reacting to this in the online space is an overreaction, nor pre-emptive even if you personally don't care.

[Baron von Schtinkenbutt]

Seems like they favor the Republican candidate for President.

Our system only gives them two real choices.  If we had a true multi-party system, they would have their own loony like the Euro countries do.

[Legbiter]

I don't understand the "troll" point.  Is there any reason to think these people don't believe what they say?  Is there something about degenerate racists harassing people that somehow becomes cute or acceptable because it is done through an internet connection?

Of course we don't understand it. We're all normie scum to be triggered for lulz. Anon chan culture + 17 year old lettowites = /pol/.