(((The Jewish Cowbell))): Unpacking a Gross New Meme from the Alt-Right

[The Minsky Moment]

I used to think Americans were OK now I'm not sure.  Suddenly the Walken joke about more cowbell looks very suspicious to me. And if SNL isn't proof against the anti-semites there is no safe place.

[CountDeMoney]

So 1) antisemitism still exists, and 2) Europeans and racist Dumbfuckistanis are at best dismissive about it and at worse endorse it.  Holy fucking shit.

What is your estimate, in %, of Americans that are anti-semitic?

I am certain there is a substantial amount, but certainly less than the 100% of Europeans.

Then again, there are some parts of America where Jews are such an ingrained part of society they're not even noticed, and there are parts of America that have probably never seen a Jew. 

[CountDeMoney]

It's kind of weird watching the alt right using perceived anti-Semitism to support their own anti-Muslim bigotry while simultaneously dismissing criticism of or indulge in actual anti-Semitism.

Not really; it's just another defensive play on the whole "only racists talk about race" angle. 
After all, when racists talk about the "inner city", or "states' rights", or "welfare", or "law and order", they're not saying "niggers" even though they're saying "niggers", and they will take umbrage when you call them on it.

[Jacob]

I am certain there is a substantial amount, but certainly less than the 100% of Europeans.

You are overstating your case here. At the very least, you should exclude European Jews from the list of anti-Semites.

[Jacob]

It's kind of weird watching the alt right using perceived anti-Semitism to support their own anti-Muslim bigotry while simultaneously dismissing criticism of or indulge in actual anti-Semitism.

Not really; it's just another defensive play on the whole "only racists talk about race" angle. 
After all, when racists talk about the "inner city", or "states' rights", or "welfare", or "law and order", they're not saying "niggers" even though they're saying "niggers", and they will take umbrage when you call them on it.

Yeah, I agree. Originally I thought "funny" instead of "weird", but it's not really funny.

[CountDeMoney]

I am certain there is a substantial amount, but certainly less than the 100% of Europeans.

You are overstating your case here. At the very least, you should exclude European Jews from the list of anti-Semites.

I dunno, man...Jews are loathed, but Jewish self-loathing is a close to an art as you get.

[Zoupa]

Jews are shitty tippers included.

90%?

What?  Seriously?

[Admiral Yi]

What?  Seriously?

Yeah.  I think most people here hold at least one negative generalization about Jews.  But then again they probably hold at least one negative generalization about almost any ethnic/religious/cultural group, and I think Jews would score better than most on the question "taking the good with the bad, is your view of [group X] overall positive or negative."

Maybe lower than 90, since as Seedy pointed out there are swathes of the country where people have never met a Jew and don't give them any thought.

[Capetan Mihali]

There's about 500K Jews in France.  Most of them aren't going anywhere.
There was a time of course when things were different . . .

But what about their obvious inability to coexist with {{Ahmed}}?

[Martinus]

There's about 500K Jews in France.  Most of them aren't going anywhere.
There was a time of course when things were different . . .

It's kind of weird watching the alt right using perceived anti-Semitism to support their own anti-Muslim bigotry while simultaneously dismissing criticism of or indulge in actual anti-Semitism.

Not as weird as watching leftists like Capetan Mihali spout anti-semitic stuff in defense of Palestinians.

[Martinus]

I mean let's face it, everybody is antisemitic to a degree. But if I were Jewish, I'd rather side with antisemites who make jokes about Jews, than antisemites who support nations, cultures and religions that pose existential threat to Jews.

It's pretty much the same with being gay and picking which homophobes to side with.

[Sheilbh]

I mean let's face it, everybody is antisemitic to a degree. But if I were Jewish, I'd rather side with antisemites who make jokes about Jews, than antisemites who support nations, cultures and religions that pose existential threat to Jews.

It's pretty much the same with being gay and picking which homophobes to side with.

Why pick?

And I don't think everyone is racist, homophobiic or anti-Semitic to some degree. Even if that's the case not everyone makes the choice to make jokes about Jews/gays. Pick the people who choose not to.

[Richard Hakluyt]

I find Woody Allen's neuroticism rather wearing but that is about it 

[Razgovory]

Jews are shitty tippers included.

90%?

What?  Seriously?

Yi is a bit weird on this.  http://global100.adl.org/  Use this.

[Sheilbh]

I find Woody Allen's neuroticism rather wearing but that is about it 

Yeah I genuinely can't think of any stereotypes I have or have held about Jews