Stuck In Your Parents’ Basement? Don’t Blame The Economy

[Berkut]

The fact that it is crazy expensive to live in NYC and SF and DC is a problem if you want to live in those places, but that is YOUR problem, or maybe those locations problem if they want those people living there anyway.

I dunno, he's pretty explicit about that.  Nobody says you have to live there.  But that's where the job is going to be?  Sounds like you need a different job then.

You might as well say there is a problem with the cost of real estate because I know this guy who was offered a job in Monaco, and he can't afford to live in Monaco.

My point is very simple - if you want to talk about there being a problem with the general cost of housing in the US, you should talk about average prices, not the extremes.

I don't think this is really that crazy of an idea.

[CountDeMoney]

Totally with you, man.  That's what I try explaining to people who move here for a job or an education, and are shocked by the real estate prices:  you've got to look at the whole real estate picture. 

I mean, there's plenty of incredibly affordable housing in Baltimore if you just know where to look, like in Freddie Gray's old neighborhood. And hey, you got a problem with that?  Nobody said you had to take that research fellowship at Johns Hopkins. Pretty sure the Wal-Mart in Farmington, New Mexico is hiring instead.  Fuck these fucking people.  Entitled assholes.

[garbon]

[DGuller]

Totally with you, man.  That's what I try explaining to people who move here for a job or an education, and are shocked by the real estate prices:  you've got to look at the whole real estate picture. 

I mean, there's plenty of incredibly affordable housing in Baltimore if you just know where to look, like in Freddie Gray's old neighborhood. And hey, you got a problem with that?  Nobody said you had to take that research fellowship at Johns Hopkins. Pretty sure the Wal-Mart in Farmington, New Mexico is hiring instead.  Fuck these fucking people.  Entitled assholes.

 

[Berkut]

And the usual suspects show their usual dedication to actual rational thought and intellectual honesty.

Yes, Seedy has made such a compelling point talking about people with fellowships at John's Hopkins. That is surely the "average" person graduating from college looking for a place to live.

[garbon]

And the usual suspects show their usual dedication to actual rational thought and intellectual honesty.

Yes, Seedy has made such a compelling point talking about people with fellowships at John's Hopkins. That is surely the "average" person graduating from college looking for a place to live.

Fuck, main streeters. All they ever tried to do was hold me back/hold me down.

[Berkut]

What is bizarre about this entire stupid argument is that I am actually agreeing with the people who are talking about their being a problem.

But it is stupid to talk about the problem that average people living in the vast majority of the US have by using NYC and SF as your examples, it actually works *against* the point.

But you guy's can't get our of your sure and certain knowledge that only people who live in the most expensive urban areas of the US matter. It is the exact reverse of how you are trying to paint me. I am not saying "Oh gosh, just move somewhere else" I am saying most people looking for a place to live are not looking for a place in the most expensive parts of the country, they are looking for a place to live (and having trouble finding one) in places a lot more like Rochester, NY than Manhattan, NY.

[DGuller]

Dude, I personally don't care if you agree with me or not.  I'm more interested in having interesting discussions, and your stream of consciousness earlier in this thread filled with trademark abrasiveness and total lack of reading comprehension kind of stopped that dead in its tracks.  So I'm just savoring Seedy's work.

[Berkut]

Dude, I personally don't care if you agree with me or not.  I'm more interested in having interesting discussions, and your stream of consciousness earlier in this thread filled with trademark abrasiveness and total lack of reading comprehension kind of stopped that dead in its tracks.  So I'm just savoring Seedy's work.

Of course, just like your savor anyone's work who agrees with you, no matter how ridiculous it is. Raz, Seedy, doesn't matter. It is savory because it agrees with you, even if it makes no rational sense. You are, as always, incredibly consistent in your intellectual rigor.

[DGuller]

Dude, I personally don't care if you agree with me or not.  I'm more interested in having interesting discussions, and your stream of consciousness earlier in this thread filled with trademark abrasiveness and total lack of reading comprehension kind of stopped that dead in its tracks.  So I'm just savoring Seedy's work.

Of course, just like your savor anyone's work who agrees with you, no matter how ridiculous it is. Raz, Seedy, doesn't matter. It is savory because it agrees with you, even if it makes no rational sense. You are, as always, incredibly consistent in your intellectual rigor.

You know how us entitled folks think.

[Berkut]

Dude, I personally don't care if you agree with me or not.  I'm more interested in having interesting discussions, and your stream of consciousness earlier in this thread filled with trademark abrasiveness and total lack of reading comprehension kind of stopped that dead in its tracks.  So I'm just savoring Seedy's work.

Of course, just like your savor anyone's work who agrees with you, no matter how ridiculous it is. Raz, Seedy, doesn't matter. It is savory because it agrees with you, even if it makes no rational sense. You are, as always, incredibly consistent in your intellectual rigor.

You know how us entitled folks think.

It isn't very hard to figure out how you think anyway - you aren't nearly as mysterious as you seem to imagine.

[DGuller]

It's very easy for you to determine what I think when you're the one deciding what I think.

[garbon]

I am saying most people looking for a place to live are not looking for a place in the most expensive parts of the country, they are looking for a place to live (and having trouble finding one) in places a lot more like Rochester, NY than Manhattan, NY.

I'm sure many would if they could (not Manhattan but one of the other cushy places like SD).

[Berkut]

You are agreeing with someone who is equating NOT living at Johns Hopkins with living in a slum. Those are apparently the only two options in your world - you either live in the very nicest (and most expensive) real estate in America, or you might as well be living in the ghetto.

You know, most people don't live in either. They live in middle class suburbs. Those suburbs exist even around major cities. And there are real problems with the ability of young people to actually afford housing in those middle class areas.

You wonder why people think you are entitled? You can't even discuss the problems of housing for middle class people in middle class areas, which is the vast majority of America, and the vast majority of where college graduates actually want to live. If it isn't SF or NYC, they might as well be slums.

Entitled? That is your word, not mine. But if the gucci loafer fits, by all means slide it on.

[DGuller]

Entitled? That is your word, not mine. But if the gucci loafer fits, by all means slide it on.

Oh, it's your word, from here:

This is exactly the sense of entitlement we see from DG and others and expressed in the other thread when they whine about how much it costs to live in the places they want to live.

Obviously coming from an idiotic misinterpretation of what I said in this thread, but it is nevertheless your word.

Anyway, we can continue searching for refined ways to express our mutual disdain for each other, but I don't think it's going to be productive, so I'll stick to expressing my amusement at Seedy's gems, which I hope will keep coming.