Campaign for the liberation and restoration of Martinus

[Razgovory]

in my experience, most people really don't have littlefinger-esque plots going on with the sole purpose of screwing someone over. people, generally, are too busy living their life doing other things. so, it's best to quash thoughts that people are out for you for any nefarious purpose, like driving you off an internet board, etc., unless you have evidence beyond reasonable doubt. otherwise, such thoughts can really lead you astray

This doesn't require a much of a plot. It's difficult to reconcile "everyone ignore Raz" with anything other then an attempt to ostracize me.

[Tamas]

Ok the discussion in this thread is actually quite depressing for me. It quite clearly points out how a huge portion of the traffic here is nothing more than serious grudges held and played out by about 4 people, plus Martinus compensating for who knows what and playing Internet Big Boy all the time..

The forum is truly dying.

[Martinus]

Ok the discussion in this thread is actually quite depressing for me. It quite clearly points out how a huge portion of the traffic here is nothing more than serious grudges held and played out by about 4 people, plus Martinus compensating for who knows what and playing Internet Big Boy all the time..

The forum is truly dying.

Cleare teh aire!

[Eddie Teach]

This doesn't require a much of a plot. It's difficult to reconcile "everyone ignore Raz" with anything other then an attempt to ostracize me.

But does he want them to ignore you "right now" or "in perpetuity"? The second choice he can't manage himself.

[Berkut]

in my experience, most people really don't have littlefinger-esque plots going on with the sole purpose of screwing someone over. people, generally, are too busy living their life doing other things. so, it's best to quash thoughts that people are out for you for any nefarious purpose, like driving you off an internet board, etc., unless you have evidence beyond reasonable doubt. otherwise, such thoughts can really lead you astray

This doesn't require a much of a plot. It's difficult to reconcile "everyone ignore Raz" with anything other then an attempt to ostracize me.

I think that is the crux of your problem, actually.

It isn't difficult at all, if you just listen to what people say. They ignore you because engaging with you is a waste of time and effort better spent on others. There is nothing more to it than that.

I ignore you because I know that every time I engage I become quickly cognizant of what a mistake it was, and that I would be better off spending my time discussing substantive matters with those who I can actually get something back from - each time I violate this general rule (and I have no doubt that THIS example will prove out as well) I end up regretting it. So whether you stay on the board or go doesn't matter at all as to how I approach interaction with you, and a desire for an outcome like you being "driven off" doesn't enter into it at all.

So there you go, your difficult problem of reconciliation has been solved for you. You're welcome.

[grumbler]

Grumbles, you would do well to learn from Yi.  He really does ignore my posts. 

Yi doesn't ignore your posts, he just doesn't always reply in the way you hope.

Nope, he has already stated he is ignoring me.  I think it dates back a long time ago to when I told him not to get his tiny testicles in a knot.  That guy can really carry a grudge.

Glad you didnt give in to the extreme passive aggressive behavior of Yi.   

You cant help yourself can you?

You are right.  Only a total flaming asshole uses language like that without apologizing.  I withdraw it and apologize to Yi.

[grumbler]

Do y'all remember when grumbler and..I think Paul Atreides argued for a couple of pages on whether a bass was a perch or a trout (or something like that) ?

I think i was arguing that the Ronco Super Bass-O-Matic '76 would work with trout, and Paul A was arguing that it was for bass only.  Then we got to arguing over what, exactly, was a bass.  Then he left and never came back.

[11B4V]

My personal fav is the one about the little boat. Parchie or some shit like that.

[Jacob]

My personal fav is the one about the little boat. Parchie or some shit like that.

Yeah, that was glorious

[grumbler]

My personal fav is the one about the little boat. Parchie or some shit like that.

That one was actually about  the Spanish Armada.  Other than the sidetrack about whether the English term for the light Spanish vessels was patache as claimed by the Wikipedia article, I found it quite interesting.

[Razgovory]

This doesn't require a much of a plot. It's difficult to reconcile "everyone ignore Raz" with anything other then an attempt to ostracize me.

But does he want them to ignore you "right now" or "in perpetuity"? The second choice he can't manage himself.

He can't can't ignore me right now either.  If everyone ignored you, would you stick around?  I doubt anyone would do so.

[Eddie Teach]

He can't can't ignore me right now either.  If everyone ignored you, would you stick around?  I doubt anyone would do so.

If people ignored me all the time, no. I already have specific posts which don't receive any type of feedback, so perhaps everyone ignored them.

[Razgovory]

I think that is the crux of your problem, actually.

It isn't difficult at all, if you just listen to what people say. They ignore you because engaging with you is a waste of time and effort better spent on others. There is nothing more to it than that.

I ignore you because I know that every time I engage I become quickly cognizant of what a mistake it was, and that I would be better off spending my time discussing substantive matters with those who I can actually get something back from - each time I violate this general rule (and I have no doubt that THIS example will prove out as well) I end up regretting it. So whether you stay on the board or go doesn't matter at all as to how I approach interaction with you, and a desire for an outcome like you being "driven off" doesn't enter into it at all.

So there you go, your difficult problem of reconciliation has been solved for you. You're welcome.

Do you actually want me to respond to this?  Cause I will.  There is only one person who really ignores me, and that's Grumbler.  He hasn't directly responded to me in about four years.  You ignore me some of the time and Marty says he'll ignore me but never can do so for more than a week.  Now of you three, only Marty has said directly he wanted me gone, he told me to kill myself.  I never stated that you wanted me gone (so what you want really doesn't factor into this), I said Grumbler did.  Grumbler doesn't just ignore me, but he wants everyone else to ignore me.  If he got his way, nobody would talk to me and I would be cut off from every member of Languish.  It is implicitly trying to get me to leave since I am left only two options: talk to myself or leave the forum.  This is very common behavior among school-children. "ignore him and he'll go away".

Fortunately Grumbler is not nearly as highly regarded he thinks he is.  His recommendation that everyone ignore me, has fallen on deaf ears, and him ignoring me makes him look childish.  I'm not sure he realizes this.  He doesn't have much in the way of self-awareness.

[garbon]

I've found a great many people in life will go away if you stop talking to them.

[DGuller]

and him ignoring me makes him look childish.  I'm not sure he realizes this.  He doesn't have much in the way of self-awareness.

Ignoring you doesn't make him look childish.  Claiming to ignore you but actually responding to you by proxy is what's getting it done.