Postmodernism is destroying our brains, culture and civilization

Started by Hamilcar, May 05, 2016, 08:38:37 AM

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garbon

We already have Marti badly playing this role. Do we need to add another player to the pantomime?
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DGuller

Quote from: garbon on May 05, 2016, 08:47:51 AM
We already have Marti badly playing this role. Do we need to add another player to the pantomime?
Took the words right out of my mouth.  :Embarrass:

Valmy



LOL. The standards for being a good man these days is pretty low. You never raped anybody? You did not abandon your kids? You are not in jail? You have a job? A++++ man. I would like to think my fellow guys out there for allowing the standard to be so low.

Also studying how nice people are in Nebraska seems humorous for some reason. Allies in New Jersey don't give a fuck.
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Grinning_Colossus

The increasing esotericism of the social sciences really is an unfortunate development, though. I blame the demand for originality in master's theses. It forces people to be... creative.
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Valmy

Quote from: garbon on May 05, 2016, 08:47:51 AM
We already have Marti badly playing this role. Do we need to add another player to the pantomime?

Natural Science people mocking social science people is a long and proud tradition -_-

I liked the one about how we should consider the conspiratorial rantings of the people when doing climate research instead of just science. Or how having ticks on your body is beneficial.
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The Brain

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Martinus

Quote from: garbon on May 05, 2016, 08:47:51 AM
We already have Marti badly playing this role. Do we need to add another player to the pantomime?

Yes we do.

celedhring

Postmodernism has been great for the arts. I'm fine with it.

Valmy

Quote from: celedhring on May 05, 2016, 10:11:25 AM
Postmodernism has been great for the arts. I'm fine with it.

I actually am pretty cool with post-modernism but what arts were you referring to?
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celedhring

Quote from: Valmy on May 05, 2016, 10:12:52 AM
Quote from: celedhring on May 05, 2016, 10:11:25 AM
Postmodernism has been great for the arts. I'm fine with it.

I actually am pretty cool with post-modernism but what arts were you referring to?

All of them? Post-modernist mistrust of grand narratives and ideologies has unshackled a lot of the arts and freed them from conventional forms and content. In film it has been very enabling, from weird hyper-subjective South Korean dramas to Mad Max Fury Road. Loads of my favorite writers (Nabokov, Eco, Vonnegut, etc...) are post-modern too. Post-modern music can be a bit too precious though  :P

I consider myself to be post-modern when I write stuff on my own dime.

The Brain

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Valmy

Quote from: celedhring on May 05, 2016, 10:26:14 AM
All of them? Post-modernist mistrust of grand narratives and ideologies has unshackled a lot of the arts and freed them from conventional forms and content. In film it has been very enabling, from weird hyper-subjective South Korean dramas to Mad Max Fury Road. Loads of my favorite writers (Nabokov, Eco, Vonnegut, etc...) are post-modern too. Post-modern music can be a bit too precious though  :P

Huh. I hadn't noticed that. Ideology seems to dominate art to a huge degree these days. Nice to hear though.
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Martinus

I think the problem with postmodernism is that, whilst it started out as a healthy critique of accepted narratives and ideologies, it has led to relativism and then to anti-pragmatism and anti-empiricism of sorts - basically a belief that if something seems to be true, then the reality must be the opposite.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Martinus on May 05, 2016, 10:35:36 AM
I think the problem with postmodernism is that, whilst it started out as a healthy critique of accepted narratives and ideologies, it has led to relativism and then to anti-pragmatism and anti-empiricism of sorts - basically a belief that if something seems to be true, then the reality must be the opposite.

Agreed. It led to people thinking that protesting against neo nazis was wrong because hey, everyone has a right to march.