Extra terrestrial life: do you believe they exist?

Started by viper37, May 03, 2016, 09:35:06 AM

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Does extra-terristrial (intelligent) life exists?

No, we are alone in the universe, always have been, always will be.
4 (8.7%)
No, maybe in the future, after us.
1 (2.2%)
There was life, but they are long gone (extinct).
1 (2.2%)
Yes, I see them every saturday morning, they initiate contact when I'm still drunk.
1 (2.2%)
Yes, I know, I have Faith they are out there.
0 (0%)
Yes, I do not have any proofs, but I am sure the universe is too big for us alone.
39 (84.8%)

Total Members Voted: 45

viper37

Inspired by this text:
http://quebec.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/05/03/extraterrestres-equation-chercheurs_n_9826818.html
It's in French, but all the links are in English.

Some math people have made an equation about the probability of extra-terrestril life to have existed:
A = Nast * ƒbt
A is the probability an alien life existed.
Nast is the number of planets in the inhabital zone of space.
ƒbt is the probability an intelligent life develops using technology in the habitable zone of space at the right distance from a star.

The full details of the study are here with the explanation of the match concept:
http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/pdfplus/10.1089/ast.2015.1418


So, what does Languish believe?  :)
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Richard Hakluyt

I believe that they exist, the Universe is so vast. But so is time and we have no idea of the lifespan of an intelligent species. Perhaps there may be only one intelligent species per 100,000 galaxies at any one time for example.

derspiess

Generally don't care, but with lack of evidence to the contrary I'm comfortable with the assumption that there is no intelligent life out there.
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Caliga

I'd say there is intelligent life, but it really doesn't matter.  We'll never be able to communicate or interact with them meaningfully unless we make some powerful technological advances outside of what we understand to be even possible right now.
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celedhring

I'm in the "universe is way too big for us to be alone" camp. Although I certainly don't believe in UFOs and shit for the same reason. There's probably lots of intelligent species out there, but we will never be able to contact them because of the insane scale involved.

The Brain

If I had to I would guess that there is intelligent life out there somewhere. Or somewhen.

About what Cal said: I think interstellar travel isn't at all unrealistic, but I see the necessary breakthroughs more in biology than in rocket science.
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grumbler

I think that answers 2, 3, and 6 are all really the same answer.  When you are talking about "the universe" the concept of simultaneity (as in "they are alive right now as opposed to past or future") is pretty meaningless.
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Valmy

I do think there is life. I do not know if there is intelligent life since we have a grand total of one example (well maybe...) it is hard to know how common that might be. I would bet the universe is loaded with bacteria and single cell organisms though.
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viper37

Quote from: Caliga on May 03, 2016, 09:54:25 AM
We'll never be able to communicate or interact with them meaningfully unless we make some powerful technological advances outside of what we understand to be even possible right now.
I don't think Ghenghis Khan envisionned the day he could talk to his subordinate in Karakorum and Georgia in real time while conquering Afghanistan.  I don't think anyone around him understood this to be even possible at the time.  So who knows for the future?  Not in my life time, most likely.  But in the scale of humanity's lifetime? Most likely.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

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Hamilcar


crazy canuck

Quote from: viper37 on May 03, 2016, 12:02:37 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 03, 2016, 09:54:25 AM
We'll never be able to communicate or interact with them meaningfully unless we make some powerful technological advances outside of what we understand to be even possible right now.
I don't think Ghenghis Khan envisionned the day he could talk to his subordinate in Karakorum and Georgia in real time while conquering Afghanistan.  I don't think anyone around him understood this to be even possible at the time.  So who knows for the future?  Not in my life time, most likely.  But in the scale of humanity's lifetime? Most likely.

I am not sure that is a good analogy.  He could actually travel to those places.  The reason why we probably won't be able to communicate in any meaningful way is the same reason we won't be able to travel there in any meaningful way.  The difficulty of travelling faster than the speed of light.

frunk

Quote from: Hamilcar on May 03, 2016, 12:06:21 PM
Other: we're in a simulation.

The simulation could include extra terrestrial life.

crazy canuck

Quote from: frunk on May 03, 2016, 12:08:13 PM
Quote from: Hamilcar on May 03, 2016, 12:06:21 PM
Other: we're in a simulation.

The simulation could include extra terrestrial life.

And be created by extra terrestrial life.

Valmy

Quote from: Hamilcar on May 03, 2016, 12:06:21 PM
Other: we're in a simulation.

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Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."