Extra terrestrial life: do you believe they exist?

Started by viper37, May 03, 2016, 09:35:06 AM

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Does extra-terristrial (intelligent) life exists?

No, we are alone in the universe, always have been, always will be.
4 (8.7%)
No, maybe in the future, after us.
1 (2.2%)
There was life, but they are long gone (extinct).
1 (2.2%)
Yes, I see them every saturday morning, they initiate contact when I'm still drunk.
1 (2.2%)
Yes, I know, I have Faith they are out there.
0 (0%)
Yes, I do not have any proofs, but I am sure the universe is too big for us alone.
39 (84.8%)

Total Members Voted: 45

Siege



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Admiral Yi

Voted with the mob, though I don't like the wording.  It's a probabilistic assessment, so I'm not sure in the strict sense.

Razgovory

An interesting question occurred to me.  Let's say human being are somehow able move from star to star and  visit alien planets.  All it takes is finding one planet with life (however defined) will of course demonstrate that there is alien life in the universe.  How many lifeless planets will it require before we decide that the only life comes from Earth?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi


alfred russel

Quote from: Razgovory on May 06, 2016, 05:23:22 PM
An interesting question occurred to me.  Let's say human being are somehow able move from star to star and  visit alien planets.  All it takes is finding one planet with life (however defined) will of course demonstrate that there is alien life in the universe.  How many lifeless planets will it require before we decide that the only life comes from Earth?

The thing is, we already know of a planet with life on it. So even if we establish that on our quarter of the universe, Earth is the only planet with life, that would still mean an expected value of 4 based only on our direct observations.
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The Brain

How do you know Earth has life? Have you considered the presence/absence of Whiteness in the juxtaposition of the body and the self?
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

alfred russel

Quote from: The Brain on May 06, 2016, 06:39:32 PM
Have you considered the presence/absence of Whiteness in the juxtaposition of the body and the self?

No. Should I?
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

The Brain

Quote from: alfred russel on May 06, 2016, 06:42:01 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 06, 2016, 06:39:32 PM
Have you considered the presence/absence of Whiteness in the juxtaposition of the body and the self?

No. Should I?

Just asking.
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Norgy

Quote from: viper37 on May 03, 2016, 09:35:06 AM

So, what does Languish believe?  :)

The probability of extraterrestial life is high. I highly doubt any of us will encounter it in our lifetime, unless one is a major follower of David Icke.

Ed Anger

I don't find much intelligence on Languish either.
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Norgy


Razgovory

Quote from: alfred russel on May 06, 2016, 06:34:50 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 06, 2016, 05:23:22 PM
An interesting question occurred to me.  Let's say human being are somehow able move from star to star and  visit alien planets.  All it takes is finding one planet with life (however defined) will of course demonstrate that there is alien life in the universe.  How many lifeless planets will it require before we decide that the only life comes from Earth?

The thing is, we already know of a planet with life on it. So even if we establish that on our quarter of the universe, Earth is the only planet with life, that would still mean an expected value of 4 based only on our direct observations.

Question:  There is a Berkut on Earth.  What is the expected value of finding an identical Berkut on another planet?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Tonitrus

#72
Quote from: Razgovory on May 07, 2016, 10:10:03 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on May 06, 2016, 06:34:50 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 06, 2016, 05:23:22 PM
An interesting question occurred to me.  Let's say human being are somehow able move from star to star and  visit alien planets.  All it takes is finding one planet with life (however defined) will of course demonstrate that there is alien life in the universe.  How many lifeless planets will it require before we decide that the only life comes from Earth?

The thing is, we already know of a planet with life on it. So even if we establish that on our quarter of the universe, Earth is the only planet with life, that would still mean an expected value of 4 based only on our direct observations.

Question:  There is a Berkut on Earth.  What is the expected value of finding an identical Berkut on another planet?

That depends on how free and widespread the licensing rights for the "Earthlings!" simulation game has become.  I like to think that I am being played on thousands of systems.  But it is hard to tell since my simulation is still in progress.

Whoever got stuck playing "Ethiopian_child_0773" probably thought that the game sucked.

Hamilcar

Quote from: The Brain on May 06, 2016, 06:39:32 PM
How do you know Earth has life? Have you considered the presence/absence of Whiteness in the juxtaposition of the body and the self?

:lol:

KRonn

I feel that of course there's extra terrestrial life. Such a large galaxy, so many planets and Earth couldn't be the only place where life grew. Certainly there's lower life but also has to be higher intelligent life. That's just the galaxy, and with billions of galaxies in the universe there certainly is life. I just wonder if it'll ever be possible to travel near the speed of light to actually travel far enough to get to neighboring star systems? But scientists have already been talking seriously about types of engines that will go multitudes faster than what exist now, which will make it a lot more feasible to travel longer distances.