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Started by Razgovory, April 07, 2016, 04:20:42 PM

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Martinus

#30
April 08, 2016, 11:48:57 AM

The Brain

#31
April 08, 2016, 11:56:58 AM
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Razgovory

#32
April 08, 2016, 01:06:22 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 08, 2016, 10:48:24 AM
Quote from: derspiess on April 08, 2016, 10:46:25 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 07, 2016, 09:27:07 PM
For starters, Canadian Conservatives use the traditional conservative colour - blue. :contract:

Not our fault.  We had red forced upon us, probably by some lefty who was scared of people making the connection of Demoncrats to socialists/commies.

Man I miss those days :weep:

So do I. :(   I'm not a socialist.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

#33
April 08, 2016, 06:10:29 PM
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Hamilcar

#34
April 08, 2016, 07:16:15 PM
Alt-right is the logical conclusion of left-wing identity politics.

derspiess

#35
April 08, 2016, 07:39:54 PM
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Razgovory

#36
April 08, 2016, 09:50:04 PM
Quote from: Hamilcar on April 08, 2016, 07:16:15 PM
Alt-right is the logical conclusion of left-wing identity politics.

:secret: Conservatives have had identity politics well before the left did.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Hamilcar

#37
April 09, 2016, 12:30:17 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 08, 2016, 09:50:04 PM
Quote from: Hamilcar on April 08, 2016, 07:16:15 PM
Alt-right is the logical conclusion of left-wing identity politics.

:secret: Conservatives have had identity politics well before the left did.

True, should have been more specific. It's the conclusion of the current flavor of identify politics on the left. If your power and status depend on how oppressed your group is, compounded by how many oppressed groups you belong to (thank you intersectionality), then it was only a question of time before poor, Christian whites declared themselves an oppressed group.

Razgovory

#38
April 09, 2016, 01:17:08 AM
That is not new either, nor is it an accurate description of who these people claim to be.  While they do make a great deal of their whiteness, they are not identifying themselves as poor or particularly Christian.  It is a reaction to the empowerment of groups that a not white and male.  It seems to be a resentment of equality and a desire to reestablish white supremacy.  If it was just another cult of victimization magazines like the National Review wouldn't care.  They have been more than happy tolerate those people who claim that Christians are being persecuted in this country.  The naked racism crosses the line.  The anti-feminism goes too far, into the territory of hating women.  This is the ideology of lunatics, of rapists, and spree shooters.  The beliefs of internet tough guys, lone wolves, and skinheads.  It's the people who think they won the lottery of life by being born white, male and American and bitter the world isn't served up to them on a silver platter.  In other words, scum.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Eddie Teach

#39
April 09, 2016, 01:36:46 AM
You sound very confident for someone who opened the thread asking if such a movement really existed.
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Jaron

#40
April 09, 2016, 01:59:27 AM
Raz just got owned
Winner of THE grumbler point.

Razgovory

#41
April 09, 2016, 02:14:44 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 09, 2016, 01:36:46 AM
You sound very confident for someone who opened the thread asking if such a movement really existed.

I can identify ideas.  I just wanted to know if there were lots of people who had them.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

dps

#42
April 09, 2016, 02:38:49 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 09, 2016, 02:14:44 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 09, 2016, 01:36:46 AM
You sound very confident for someone who opened the thread asking if such a movement really existed.

I can identify ideas.  I just wanted to know if there were lots of people who had them.

Nah, most people have no ideas.

Martinus

#43
April 09, 2016, 02:49:10 AM
Leftist identity politics is hardly about equality any more - it is about special treatment for groups defined as oppressed, with a group that ranks higher on the oppression ladder trumping the group lower on the ladder (so while, say, gays trump Christians, women trump gays, and Muslims trump women). And if anyone preaches naked racism, it's racial supremacist groups such as Black Lives Matter.

Martinus

#44
April 09, 2016, 02:55:06 AM
Incidentally, it is kind of funny that the Western leftists have essentially taken up a lot of practices and rituals of the communist era in Eastern Europe. So, we used to have these big celebrations of the International Women's Day but this was dropped when communism ended - but now apparently, it's a thing in the West. Our universities used to award special points for "social background" (where it got to the point when children of the hated "privileged" intelligentsia and bourgeoisie could not very often even get into the universities, while much less able sons and daughters of the working class received special treatment) but we dropped it rightly as a wildly unjust and horrible practice - only to see it practiced in the West in the form of affirmative action. It's kinda ironic that every country who ever got out of communism thinks these are horribly bad ideas - but Western leftists actually adopt them wholesale.
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