So Is Alt-Right a thing?

[Razgovory]

Lately, I've been hearing the term "alt-right" used a bit.  It's being used by somewhat reputable papers like the National Review.  http://www.nationalreview.com/article/433650/alt-rights-racism-moral-rot  They don't paint a pretty picture.  Left-wing publications are much less charitable.

There is a wiki article on the concept, which seems like such a weird grab-bag that it's hard to take seriously.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right  Monarchism?  Gamersgate?  That's a bit hard to swallow.  Admittedly some of the articles that the Wikipedia entry cites do mention things like Monarchism(!), but it's a bit difficult to take seriously.  Naturally the more mainstream right-wingers blame the left for all this, but then the Weekly Standard blames the left for pretty much everything.

So is this really some kind of political identification or movement? 

[Grinning_Colossus]

From what I understand, they don't like the ascendancy of 'classical liberalism' on the mainstream right and think that we should re-embrace the virtues of authoritarianism and homogeneity. Here's a fairly objective writeup: http://slatestarcodex.com/2013/03/03/reactionary-philosophy-in-an-enormous-planet-sized-nutshell/

[Barrister]

I don't know if it's a "thing", so much as trying to identify and label what Trump is tapping into.  Trump mostly isn't left-wing, but he's so very different from the traditional GOP positions that some have attempted to label it.  I guess "alt-right" is what is being settled on.

[Razgovory]

Well I feel stupid, I meant to link the wiki article that I was skeptical of, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right

[Valmy]

I don't know if it's a "thing", so much as trying to identify and label what Trump is tapping into.  Trump mostly isn't left-wing, but he's so very different from the traditional GOP positions that some have attempted to label it.  I guess "alt-right" is what is being settled on

You think all this started with Trump? Where have you been the past seven or eight years? That article GC posted is from 2013 for example.

You have to stop assuming the American Right wing is like the Canadian conservatives.

[derspiess]

Tried it on my keyboard.  Nothing happened, so I don't think it's a thing.

[Eddie Teach]

Bah, spiess stole my joke.

[Valmy]

Tried it on my keyboard.  Nothing happened, so I don't think it's a thing.

It is page forward so you need to page back first. Then it will do something. Try it and see.

[derspiess]

Wow.  It totally is a thing.  And I think I'm part of the movement! 

[Razgovory]

Wow.  It totally is a thing.  And I think I'm part of the movement! 

My great uncle Benedict was a zoo keeper in the 1920's.  Devoured by a lion, he was and became part of a movement of sorts.

[Valmy]

Wow.  It totally is a thing.

And I think I'm part of the movement! 

I feel like I helped somebody find their place in the world today

[Eddie Teach]

You know, if one person, just one person, does it, they may think he's
Really sick and they won't take him.

And if two people do it, in harmony, they may think they're both faggots and
They won't take either of them.

And if three people do it! Can you imagine three people walkin' in, singin'
A bar of "Alice's Restaurant" and walkin' out? They may think it's an
Organization!

And can you imagine fifty people a day? I said FIFTY people a day . . .
Walkin' in, singin' a bar of "Alice's Restaurant" and walkin' out? Friends,
They may think it's a MOVEMENT, and that's what it is: THE ALICE'S
RESTAURANT ANTI-MASSACREE MOVEMENT! . . . and all you gotta do to join is to
Sing it the next time it comes around on the guitar.

[CountDeMoney]

Tried it on my keyboard.  Nothing happened, so I don't think it's a thing.

I bet you'd fucking find it if it was wearing a hoodie and holding a bag of Skittles, Der La Beckwith.

[Barrister]

I don't know if it's a "thing", so much as trying to identify and label what Trump is tapping into.  Trump mostly isn't left-wing, but he's so very different from the traditional GOP positions that some have attempted to label it.  I guess "alt-right" is what is being settled on

You think all this started with Trump? Where have you been the past seven or eight years? That article GC posted is from 2013 for example.

You have to stop assuming the American Right wing is like the Canadian conservatives.

Why on earth would I ever assume the American right wing is like the Canadian Conservatives?  They're very different beasts.

For starters, Canadian Conservatives use the traditional conservative colour - blue.

[Razgovory]

I imagine being a monarchist in Canada doesn't automatically mean you are insane.  I've read a libertarian tract on why the US should have a monarchy, but I expect lunacy from them.  Actually, some of the less appealing things spouted by libertarians are reflected in some of the "alt-right" ideas.