Agnostic Muslims kill more part-time Christians, this time in Nagorno-Karabakh

Started by Grinning_Colossus, April 03, 2016, 08:15:33 AM

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Grinning_Colossus

Russia urges deescalation, Turkey offers Az a blank check. :o

Azerbaijan has built up a much larger military since the last war, but Russia has closer ties to Armenia, and their military support could easily be decisive.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35953916

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Azerbaijan has announced a "unilateral ceasefire" in fighting with Armenian forces over the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh region.

A defence ministry spokesman said the Azeris were acting in response to international calls to halt violence.
But the Armenia-backed Karabakh forces said this was false and Azerbaijan was continuing to fire shells.

Nagorno-Karabakh has been in the hands of ethnic-Armenian separatists since a war that ended in 1994.
Fighting had continued into Sunday, after clashes left 30 soldiers dead and caused civilian casualties.

"Azerbaijan, showing good will, has decided to unilaterally cease hostilities," the Azeri defence ministry said in a statement.
It warned it would strike back if its forces came under attack.

But David Babayan, a Karabakh military spokesman, told AFP news agency that fighting had not stopped.
"Fierce fighting is under way on south-eastern and north-eastern sectors of the Karabakh frontline," he said.
Another spokesman, Senor Hasratyan, was quoted by Armenian media as saying Azeri forces were using Grad missiles and heavy artillery to shell the northern Karabakh area of Martakert.


Other reports from Armenia said two Karabakh soldiers had been injured in the fighting.
An image from footage obtained from the Nagorno-Karabakh defence authorities' official website reportedly shows houses damaged in the fighting.

Earlier, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan had said he backed Azerbaijan "to the end" in the clashes.
Turkey has close ties to Baku but does not have relations with Armenia because of the dispute over mass killings of Armenians during the Ottoman era, which Armenia says was a genocide. Turkey staunchly denies this.

On Saturday Armenia said 18 ethnic-Armenian troops had died, while Azerbaijan said it had lost 12 troops. The Karabakh defence ministry said a 12-year-old boy had been killed and two other children injured.

Each side blamed the other for breaking the ceasefire. Azerbaijan said its forces had taken over two strategic hills and a village but lost a helicopter.
Armenia's government said Azerbaijan had launched a "massive attack" with tanks, artillery and helicopters.


The BBC's Reyhan Demytrie in Tbilisi says there have long been fears that hostilities between the two nations, which are highly militarised and possess sophisticated weaponry, could spiral out of control.

Two ethnic Armenian boys were injured in Saturday's shelling, the authorities say.

Mr Erdogan also criticised the Minsk Group - a body under the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE), chaired by the US, Russia and France and tasked with resolving the conflict.
He said it had "underestimated" the situation.
"If the Minsk Group had taken fair and decisive steps over this, such incidents would not have happened. However, the weaknesses of the Minsk Group unfortunately led the situation to this point," he told an Azeri reporter during his trip to the US, the presidency said.

The fighting prompted a rush of potential Armenian recruits to Nagorno-Karabakh's military
Fighting between the two sides began in the late 1980s and escalated into full-scale war in 1991 as the Soviet Union collapsed, killing about 30,000 people before a ceasefire in 1994.
The region, which lies inside Azerbaijan but is controlled by ethnic Armenians, has since run its own affairs with Armenian military and financial backing, but clashes break out on a regular basis.
BBC Azeri's Konul Khalilova says leaders on both sides have been blamed for stoking the conflict to stay in power rather than seeking peace.
Quis futuit ipsos fututores?


Grinning_Colossus

Quote from: Monoriu on April 03, 2016, 08:20:15 AM
Agnostic Muslims? :unsure:


Azeris love their vodka more than Allah loved Mohammed. ;) Once, in Marneuli, I visited the home of a very religious Azeri man--a bit of an oddity in the community. With unrestrained pride, he pointed out the enormous Quran displayed on his mantelpiece. It was upside-down.
Quis futuit ipsos fututores?

Queequeg

Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

Solmyr

Armenia has been sliding out of Russian influence during the past year. This is clearly a tool to bring them back.

Queequeg

Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

Solmyr


Queequeg

Why would Baku be doing Moscow's bidding by invading an ally of Moscow?
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

Solmyr


jimmy olsen

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Eddie Teach

I have found it curious, when I get cultural union with Ottomans at 1000 development, the only accepted culture I pick up that I actually have is Azeri. And they only have like 3 provinces. /shrug
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Norgy


mongers

Quote from: Norgy on April 03, 2016, 05:58:12 PM
Armenia? That's a real place?  :huh:

It dominates the southern isthmus of Handia and to it's North lies Shouldistan.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Solmyr

Quote from: Razgovory on April 03, 2016, 08:03:32 PM
Quote from: Solmyr on April 03, 2016, 11:19:05 AM
Who says they are doing it knowingly?

Restate your argument, what you are saying makes no sense.

Nagorno-Karabakh violence starts up. Russia is likely to have had a hand in it in order to force Armenia to fall firmly into its lap once again, after last year's tensions.