Shootings and explosions in Paris

[derspiess]

re "perhaps," aren't long-term refugee camps well known for breeding terrorism?

European housing projects for refugees seem to breed terrorism as well.  Maybe it's better to keep them at arm's length.

[viper37]

Mr. Trump on Syrian refugees:

"What should happen is the United States and a bunch of other countries should get together—funded by the Gulf States, because they have tremendous amounts of money—and we should build a safe zone," Trump said. "It should be in Syria. Or a number of safe zones, in different parts of Syria, where you build until the war ends and they can go back—if they want to—they can go back to where they want to be. But, absolutely, we should not be taking undocumented people into this country."

If you sift through his usual "flowery prose" this is actually a decent policy - but I guess Jacob will be worried America starts alienating its Gulf state allies like that, by expecting them to pull their weight...

it's the policy proposed by Turkey, establish a city or cities in northern Syria and enforce a no fly zone.

[Valmy]

it's the policy proposed by Turkey, establish a city or cities in northern Syria and enforce a no fly zone.

Should have done it.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

re "perhaps," aren't long-term refugee camps well known for breeding terrorism?

European housing projects for refugees seem to breed terrorism as well.  Maybe it's better to keep them at arm's length.

islamic states breed terrorism as well. better have none of those either...

[LaCroix]

how are they failing miserably?

Because being a refugee is so great? Because no refugee crisis has ever happened in recent history? Because the allocation of refugees and standards and procedures for their care is completely haphazard and non-existent? Because they should not all be in Greece and Turkey if a rational procedure is in place?

you know the taliban originated in long-term refugee camps set up/cared for by the UN.

Wait you just said that they are not failing miserably? Huh.

I assume those camps had "substantial resources of the entire international community"

You would assume wrong. The international community has failed to recognize what an important security and stability issue this is.

In any case in some cases it might be logical to maintain long-term camps, in others it might not. Maybe some of the refugees are anticipating returning to their nation shortly and do not want to be evacuated to Sri Lanka or wherever.

I think without a firm conclusion in sight to a regional conflict, refugees should be dispersed as quickly as possible into stable long-term environments (which, sad for the euros, is Europe) to prevent them from getting infected by extremists. I don't think it's a good idea to have long-term refugee camps for people (cultures) who have an extremist group running around. (so, imo jaron's people could do well in camps) this lowers the terrorist conversion rate and thus increases overall safety. even if some of the bad ones end up doing something bad in the communities they're sent to, (which, statistically, is just gonna happen) it's for a greater good

[LaCroix]

islamic states breed terrorism as well. better have none of those either...

I think terrorists organizations should be annihilated and the people who fund those organizations imprisoned (I'm not aware of any evidence that the saudi nation itself funds terrorism, just rich assholes), so yeah if that's what you mean... that would absolutely cut down/eliminate terrorist conversion

European housing projects for refugees seem to breed terrorism as well.  Maybe it's better to keep them at arm's length.

I mean, if euro housing projects have like 50,000 people in them, yeah, agree