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A few simple questions for climate fanatics

Started by Siege, March 15, 2016, 07:54:44 AM

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Quote from: Siege on March 15, 2016, 07:54:44 AM
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A few simple questions for climate fanatics
By Jack Hellner


President Obama, Bernie Sanders, and Hillary Clinton state that climate change is more dangerous to future generations than terrorism.  They advocate destroying industries that have greatly improved our quality and length of life.  I believe that the American people are entitled to some actual scientific facts instead of talking points.  Here are some questions for the global warming bandwagon.

In the 1920s, scientists were warning that because of warming and the melting ice, coastal cities would soon disappear.  Why were they wrong then, and why are the same warnings correct today?  How did the Earth cool so much from 1945 to 1976 that the experts were warning about a disastrous ice age if rising CO2, rapidly increasing populations, industrialization, and fossil fuels cause warming?

Simple. The scientists of the 1920s were all land speculators, who hoped to buy cheap land as people fled the coasts. They were all replaced, between 1945 and 1970, by lizard people, who were hoping for climate change because hotter temps benefit lizards, who are cold-blooded.

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Norgy

Quote from: Zanza on March 15, 2016, 12:09:44 PM
What vital industries are we giving up?

Coal. Apparently it's the bees-knees for fighting climate change.

Savonarola

Quote from: Norgy on March 15, 2016, 12:02:46 PM
I've always wondered what "The Climate Change Industry" is getting out of this too.

Carbon offsets, they're the modern plenary indulgences.  :pope:
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viper37

Quote from: Norgy on March 15, 2016, 12:02:46 PM
I've always wondered what "The Climate Change Industry" is getting out of this too.
to be honest, lots of people are going to benefit from this.  There is no reason to buy an electric car if gaz is cheap and harmless to the environment.  No reason to shut down thermal power plants if coal is harmless but ample reason be use nuclear, hydro, solar or wind power even when they are more costly.  Lots of people like Al Gore with their own consulting business to make tons of money on this.

It's essentially shifting resources from one place to another.  Like shifting resources away from horse breeding to manufacturing cars.  I'm pretty sure the horse breeders weren't too keen on seeing the automobile makers take their place.  Some survived by diversifying, some others died.  That was free market.  Even though the governments favored the cars by building better roads, more roads and paved roads instead of relying on a trail in the desert.  Even though the government subsidized the oil industry and not the farmers providing forage for animals.  Even if when governments nationalized and/or subsidized the aircraft industry, it was free market.

But today, it is socialism.  Because some idiots said so.
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Admiral Yi

The writer doesn't understand margin of error.

Norgy

So actual science is socialist bufoonery? I see.

If anything, the reticence of accepting science reminds me of Reagan and his stance on gay cancer. Or AIDS, as it was later known as.
No wonder I loathe him and Thatcher with passion.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Norgy on March 15, 2016, 06:50:05 PM
So actual science is socialist bufoonery? I see.

If anything, the reticence of accepting science reminds me of Reagan and his stance on gay cancer. Or AIDS, as it was later known as.
No wonder I loathe him and Thatcher with passion.

A preference not to run public service announcements on TV telling gays to stop fucking so much without rubbers equals a dismissal of science?  Or are you thinking of something else I'm unaware of?

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Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 15, 2016, 06:59:31 PM
Quote from: Norgy on March 15, 2016, 06:50:05 PM
So actual science is socialist bufoonery? I see.

If anything, the reticence of accepting science reminds me of Reagan and his stance on gay cancer. Or AIDS, as it was later known as.
No wonder I loathe him and Thatcher with passion.

A preference not to run public service announcements on TV telling gays to stop fucking so much without rubbers equals a dismissal of science?  Or are you thinking of something else I'm unaware of?

You know as well as me he refused to fund research about AIDS as it was just something homos died from.
Not his voters.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Norgy on March 15, 2016, 07:45:48 PM
You know as well as me he refused to fund research about AIDS as it was just something homos died from.
Not his voters.

I know it much less well than you, since he did fund AIDS research.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_policy_of_the_Ronald_Reagan_administration#Response_to_AIDS

Siege

Quote from: Norgy on March 15, 2016, 07:45:48 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 15, 2016, 06:59:31 PM
Quote from: Norgy on March 15, 2016, 06:50:05 PM
So actual science is socialist bufoonery? I see.

If anything, the reticence of accepting science reminds me of Reagan and his stance on gay cancer. Or AIDS, as it was later known as.
No wonder I loathe him and Thatcher with passion.

A preference not to run public service announcements on TV telling gays to stop fucking so much without rubbers equals a dismissal of science?  Or are you thinking of something else I'm unaware of?

You know as well as me he refused to fund research about AIDS as it was just something homos died from.
Not his voters.


And he was right.
Wash your mouth before you talk shit about the best president ever.


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Barrister

Quote from: Siege on March 15, 2016, 08:00:30 PM
Quote from: Norgy on March 15, 2016, 07:45:48 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 15, 2016, 06:59:31 PM
Quote from: Norgy on March 15, 2016, 06:50:05 PM
So actual science is socialist bufoonery? I see.

If anything, the reticence of accepting science reminds me of Reagan and his stance on gay cancer. Or AIDS, as it was later known as.
No wonder I loathe him and Thatcher with passion.

A preference not to run public service announcements on TV telling gays to stop fucking so much without rubbers equals a dismissal of science?  Or are you thinking of something else I'm unaware of?

You know as well as me he refused to fund research about AIDS as it was just something homos died from.
Not his voters.


And he was right.
Wash your mouth before you talk shit about the best president ever.

I love me some Reagan, but better than Washington?  Better than Lincoln? :yeahright:
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Reagan is the worst thing that ever happened to this country.  I mean it all seemed good at the time, but all of these mouthbreathers that can't get themselves off of his Alzheimeried treasonous cock are the reason this country isn't "Great" anymore.

Admiral Yi

I was surprised to learn while reading that wiki article I linked that Dutch got the top income tax rate down to 28%.

Valmy

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 15, 2016, 10:19:54 PM
I was surprised to learn while reading that wiki article I linked that Dutch got the top income tax rate down to 28%.

High taxes are not as popular in Europe as we sometimes like to think.
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