GOP isn't the only party with internal issues

[Habbaku]

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I have been reexamining lately my political stances.

And I wonder how often you reexamine your various positions on any number of topics during any given week...  Is Facebook, Twitter or Tumblr your GPS of choice these days?

[Martinus]

Okay.  Well whatever you consider Socialist, Hamas is the still a far right group.

Whether or not they are is irrelevant to the childish point you're trying to make.

I am not even sure what his point is.

[Martinus]

How would you characterize religious fundamentalists?

Depends on the movement.  Some religious fundamentalists are downright socialist in their economic views/policies.

You mean charity?

No, many religion-focused political groups around the world are big on wealth redistribution, socialised medicine and education, and social safety nets. When the state is a democracy, this is usually accomplished by the state sharing these jobs with church(es) (which is/are, however, heavily subsidised by the state to perform these roles), in theocracies these functions are performed outright by the state (albeit with a religious slant).

In fact, commitment to free market and a sink-or-swim approach to personal responsibility is quite unique to Protestantism, and is generally not shared by other religions (including Catholicism or Islam).

[Martinus]

Was Rubio crying during the debate? His eyes were all watery. 

[Razgovory]

Okay.  Well whatever you consider Socialist, Hamas is the still a far right group.

Whether or not they are is irrelevant to the childish point you're trying to make.

What point do you think I was trying to make?  All I did was identify Hamas as a right wing group.

[Eddie Teach]

Was Rubio crying during the debate? His eyes were all watery. 

He just loves this country so much.

[Norgy]

Okay.  Well whatever you consider Socialist, Hamas is the still a far right group.

No, I wouldn't say so.
Hamas has much in common with the party of Erdogan in Turkey and the Moslem Brotherhood, who at least at face value support quite leftist fiscal policies.
Socially conservative, well yes, but ever since Bismarck, paternalist policies in helping the poor has been a part of many brands of conservatism.

Fatah was the darling of the European new left back in the 70s. The story of Hamas includes the Mossad trying to build an alternative organisation mostly focused on welfare and religion instead of Arafat's Fatah. It could be considered the most dire example of blowback ever when Hamas actually began to take an interest in politics.

[Valmy]

Okay.  Well whatever you consider Socialist, Hamas is the still a far right group.

No, I wouldn't say so.
Hamas has much in common with the party of Erdogan in Turkey and the Moslem Brotherhood, who at least at face value support quite leftist fiscal policies.
Socially conservative, well yes, but ever since Bismarck, paternalist policies in helping the poor has been a part of many brands of conservatism.

Well right. Just like some people therefore claim the FN in France is a left wing party. But I find that a bit absurd. Also I don't think that kind of paternalistic conservatism was invented by Bismark.

[Norgy]

Neither Hamas nor the FN are very fond of furriners, I think.

The FN is a good example of the new right in Europe; working class voters, and playing on the perceived betrayal the socialists done to the working man. Incidentally, I think you'd find a lot of jobless middle-aged males among their voters.

I'd say Hamas is difficult to place. Religious extremism and terrorism are neither left nor right.

[Valmy]

Terrorism and extremism are certainly a lovely set of values shared by left and right alike.

But religious extremism implies a social conservative agenda typically.

[derspiess]

Okay.  Well whatever you consider Socialist, Hamas is the still a far right group.

Whether or not they are is irrelevant to the childish point you're trying to make.

I am not even sure what his point is.

That Hamas = GOP

[Valmy]

That Hamas = GOP

Ah. Well that is stupid.

Come on Raz, Siege constantly does the 'Democrats = Soviet Bloc Communists' thing. Don't be like Siege.

[Razgovory]

Okay.  Well whatever you consider Socialist, Hamas is the still a far right group.

Whether or not they are is irrelevant to the childish point you're trying to make.

I am not even sure what his point is.

That Hamas = GOP

I never said that.  All I said that it was right wing.  Then you got all defensive.

[derspiess]

Okay.  Well whatever you consider Socialist, Hamas is the still a far right group.

Whether or not they are is irrelevant to the childish point you're trying to make.

I am not even sure what his point is.

That Hamas = GOP

I never said that.  All I said that it was right wing.  Then you got all defensive.

So you were trolling me.  Like you do in 90% of your posts.

[Norgy]

The funny thing is of course that Raz is much more religiously conservative than Spicy has ever seemed to be.