Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

[Bauer]

China isn't in decline - Asia generally in my experience doesn't feel like it's in decline (there are different political consequences from that situation and arguably the most dangerous is when the two collide).

Disagree. But even to the extent it isn't it isn't the boom town it once was. And I am not sure it is a land of opportunity for some young English kid looking for a better life away from Blighty.

I don't think China is in decline considering they still grow faster than developed nations, and are approaching a possible manufacturing hegemony era.

But their golden age of growth is over and is more and more being rivaled by serious issues which the massive growth used to hide.  Demographic, youth employment, debt, corruption.

[Zanza]

So is this new uk eu deal good or bad?  Popular or unpopular ?  I never understood brexit to begin with so I can't imagine more free trade and market access would ever be a bad thing.

Seems like sensible steps in the right direction.

[Josquius]

So is this new uk eu deal good or bad?  Popular or unpopular ?  I never understood brexit to begin with so I can't imagine more free trade and market access would ever be a bad thing.

Purely on its own merits a common sense baby step in the right direction which doesn't go anywhere near as far as it should.
Politically though the idiots are till screaming their insanity about it being bad as it makes Britain a rule taker /exactly what they voted for.
Hopefully a clear majority recognises it for the minor basic common sense deal that it is and these people as crazy.

If only there hadn't been a dumb decision made to stop people doing just that...

My plan remains to move at some point. But it's hard with a family in tow.

France?  Belgium? Luxemburg? Switzerland has pretty tight immigration laws but doable for you I guess.

Too much French for him

Join your brethren in Spain or Portugal, Josq

Much too hot. I'd surely die.
Sadly French is a pull factor. This goes back to the whole silly thing with Raz earlier on preferences and you don't entirely choose who you end up with.

Purely for me I would consider France itself actually.. Housing around Evian et all seems large and cheap. Relatively speaking.
 It's the rest of the family have more issues there: the French education system, current fasc issues being worse than the UK in a way, and it being just a little too inconvenient are factors.
It's probably to be Switzerland. But jobs are an issue- as they increasingly are elswhere... The market is borked at the moment.

[Tamas]

I think if you have a decent life going in a first world country where you match the prevailing skin colour and ethnicity, then moving should be put off until there is some inkling on how the post-Trump world is going to look like.

So after he dies in office in 2032 :p

[Josquius]

The reform regime in Durham is starting as they mean to go on and doing exactly as expected.

First they remove the words equality and climate change from some department names.

Then they take down the Ukraine flag and pride flag - right before Durham is due to host an armed forces price event

. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgrrqw1xzdo.amp


And what do the scum say about this petty identity politics point scoring that is basically all they do?

"Flying our national and local flags is an act of unity. Swapping them out for niche political symbols is just more toxic identity politics."

This really boils my piss.
Being a far right piece of shit is one thing. But at least be fucking honest about it.
Moaning about identity politics when you're pushing identity politics.... Pff

[Tamas]

Around once a year I have an emotional crisis, a trigger of deep doubts about my own convictions and values. This happens when I find myself agreeing with Simon Jenkins on something:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/may/23/britain-left-eu-reset-keir-starmer-tories

[Richard Hakluyt]

Around once a year I have an emotional crisis, a trigger of deep doubts about my own convictions and values. This happens when I find myself agreeing with Simon Jenkins on something:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/may/23/britain-left-eu-reset-keir-starmer-tories

 

Was just about to make roughly the same post. Always a disturbing sign of the end times getting nearer when one agrees with Simon Jenkins 

[Duque de Bragança]

Around once a year I have an emotional crisis, a trigger of deep doubts about my own convictions and values. This happens when I find myself agreeing with Simon Jenkins on something:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/may/23/britain-left-eu-reset-keir-starmer-tories

 

Was just about to make roughly the same post. Always a disturbing sign of the end times getting nearer when one agrees with Simon Jenkins 

I guess the Torygraph is worse than Simon Jenkins. 
Lately, anti-reset articles have popped up in my "social media" feeds.

[Valmy]

Around once a year I have an emotional crisis, a trigger of deep doubts about my own convictions and values. This happens when I find myself agreeing with Simon Jenkins on something:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/may/23/britain-left-eu-reset-keir-starmer-tories

The frustrating part is all of this was blatantly obvious at the time. Only an idiot couldn't see it back in 2016. Yet everybody is so fucking brainwashed that bringing up concepts as controversial is "water is wet" and "Brexit will be a disaster with few upsides" got you accused of fear mongering.

[Richard Hakluyt]

Around once a year I have an emotional crisis, a trigger of deep doubts about my own convictions and values. This happens when I find myself agreeing with Simon Jenkins on something:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/may/23/britain-left-eu-reset-keir-starmer-tories

 

Was just about to make roughly the same post. Always a disturbing sign of the end times getting nearer when one agrees with Simon Jenkins 

I guess the Torygraph is worse than Simon Jenkins. 
Lately, anti-reset articles have popped up in my "social media" feeds.

It used to be a respectable conservative newspaper that favoured the right; it has declined into a gibbering right-wing rag with no crdibility whatsoever 

[Josquius]

July 2016 vs now.


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[Richard Hakluyt]

He is fundamentally a very stupid person...and I'm sure that Carlo M Cipolla would agree with me if he was still alive.

[Josquius]

He is fundamentally a very stupid person...and I'm sure that Carlo M Cipolla would agree with me if he was still alive.

I dunno.... He gets around a lot, doubtless being paid decent money for writing utter nonsense. That's pretty clever.

[Razgovory]

What is "reset" in this context?  I read the guys op-ed but he wasn't clear what he was arguing for.  Mostly he just complains about everyone.