Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

Started by Josquius, February 20, 2016, 07:46:34 AM

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How would you vote on Britain remaining in the EU?

British- Remain
12 (12%)
British - Leave
7 (7%)
Other European - Remain
21 (21%)
Other European - Leave
6 (6%)
ROTW - Remain
34 (34%)
ROTW - Leave
20 (20%)

Total Members Voted: 98

Admiral Yi

Fair enough.

But my clip was absolutely not a guy being ignorant.

grumbler

Quote from: Tyr on December 19, 2018, 06:19:32 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 19, 2018, 05:53:45 PM
Please tell me you're not talking about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4k8dR04TzA

Because if you are then that's a magnificently dishonest characterization.

No, that was just the guy being ignorant.
The other day they passed into outright douche baggery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIryZJjiSF8

Your clip doesn't have any conservatives saying anything, as far as I can tell.
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Richard Hakluyt

Here is yesterday's real political story, rather than tittle-tattle about Corbyn or some unnamed Tory MP :

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-46602635

A Labour whip and "rising star" in that party guilty of a criminal act; and oh so typical of the abysmal standards permeating modern Westminster.


Josquius

Well that sucks. Every vote counts and that's - 1

Quote from: grumbler on December 19, 2018, 08:22:09 PM
Quote from: Tyr on December 19, 2018, 06:19:32 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 19, 2018, 05:53:45 PM
Please tell me you're not talking about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4k8dR04TzA

Because if you are then that's a magnificently dishonest characterization.

No, that was just the guy being ignorant.
The other day they passed into outright douche baggery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIryZJjiSF8

Your clip doesn't have any conservatives saying anything, as far as I can tell.

The mic doesn't pick it up clearly. But you can definitely hear it.
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Liep

Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on December 20, 2018, 02:17:22 AM
Here is yesterday's real political story, rather than tittle-tattle about Corbyn or some unnamed Tory MP :

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-46602635

A Labour whip and "rising star" in that party guilty of a criminal act; and oh so typical of the abysmal standards permeating modern Westminster.



That seems absolutely insane for a politician to try this, how large are fines for speeding over there?
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Richard Hakluyt

Penalty points are added to your licence or you can go to a boring speed awareness course instead. The typical fine is £100 or so.

She may have been close to her limit of penalty points (the article doesn't say), in which case she might have faced a driving ban for a limited period.

But even so, it is a very low price to place on one's honour.


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jimmy olsen

Lol

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-fox-idUSKCN1OS0OE?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5c28000404d3013fed717ce3&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

QuoteUK trade minister says '50-50' chance Brexit may be stopped: paper
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LONDON (Reuters) - Britain's trade minister Liam Fox said there is a "50-50" chance that Brexit may be stopped if parliament rejects the government's divorce deal with the European Union next month.

"If we were not to vote for that, I'm not sure I would give it (Brexit) much more than 50-50," Fox, a leading supporter of leaving the EU, told the Sunday Times newspaper.

With three months left until the United Kingdom is due to leave the EU on March 29, May's Brexit deal is floundering, opening up a range of possibilities from a Brexit without a trade deal to calling Brexit off.

Earlier this month, May pulled a planned vote on her deal after admitting parliament would reject it. Lawmakers are set to vote on the deal in the week starting Jan. 14.
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Josquius

It's truly terrifying that there are people so zealous about this that they'd rather no deal than delay the whole thing.
Actual no deal.
Out of the EU and the WTO.
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Richard Hakluyt

Its worked pretty well for North Korea; quit moaning  :P

Legbiter

So if there is no deal the UK defaults back to WTO arrangements with the EU?

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Iormlund

Yes and no. AFAIK there are 3 problems with reverting to WTO:


  • The UK now falls under the EU Schedule. Once it is out it has to negotiate a new Schedule with ALL WTO members. This can take easily a decade or two. IIRC in the interim it can still use the EU's, but other members can initiate actions against it.
  • Even inheriting the EU's Schedule would not be that great. For one thing, it was designed for the EU needs, not those of the UK.
  • In the absence of free trade agreements the rules have to apply to all trade equally. So the UK cannot eliminate tariffs on, say, EU car components bound for Jaguar and Nissan without doing the same for those sent from China.

Legbiter

Eh, there will be a negotiated muddle. Will be a bit bumpy especially since it will be done on the fly.

Alternatively the Royal Navy could seize the Canaries in a surprise amphibious assault to create more leverage.  ;)
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The Larch

Quote from: Legbiter on December 30, 2018, 07:09:48 AMAlternatively the Royal Navy could seize the Canaries in a surprise amphibious assault to create more leverage.  ;)

Nothing to worry about, just moving the swimming pools a couple of metres beyond buildings coupled with unlimited booze would create too many casualties and make keeping the islands untenable for the Brits.

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The UK will be taken aback by control.
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