Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

Started by Josquius, February 20, 2016, 07:46:34 AM

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How would you vote on Britain remaining in the EU?

British- Remain
12 (12%)
British - Leave
7 (7%)
Other European - Remain
21 (21%)
Other European - Leave
6 (6%)
ROTW - Remain
34 (34%)
ROTW - Leave
20 (20%)

Total Members Voted: 98

mongers

Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on August 17, 2018, 09:14:20 AM
Oh well, put it down as a senior moment  :P

What the whole Brexit event?



Yes you've summed it up nicely Tricky.  :D
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Josquius

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Syt

#7007
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Josquius

:lol:

No donation of profits though?
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Zanza

#7009
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-hunt-eu-sanctions-russia-us-visit-washington-salisbury-poisoning-a8499881.html?amp

QuoteIn his first visit to Washington as foreign secretary, Mr Hunt will urge the EU member states to ensure the allies speak with "one voice" against transgressions by Moscow, "whenever and wherever they occur, from the streets of Salisbury to the fate of Crimea".
Maybe he should have gone to Brussels instead?

QuoteMr Hunt will also repeat his claim that a no-deal Brexit represents one of the greatest threats to European unity and suggest a "messy divorce" would create a fissure in relations between European allies that "would take a generation to heal".
Repeating it does not make it any less stupid. The EU and its member states never wanted this. It was all on Britain's own initiative. The Tories should start owning the consequences of their retarded policies.
I wonder why the remainers are doing this and don't let the  Brexiteers own it

Josquius

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Zanza

Quote

JUST 220 days remain before Britain is scheduled to exit the European Union. Yet as the clock counts down, even the broadest contours of the future of Britain's relationship with its continental neighbours remain uncertain. Last month the country appeared to be heading towards a "soft" Brexit, in which it would remain in the EU's single market for goods while gaining some control over the movement of people. Dominic Raab, Britain's chief negotiator, will meet his EU counterpart in Brussels today in an attempt to thrash out "the few remaining withdrawal issues". Yet little else beyond the financial cost Britain must pay to leave the EU has been agreed, increasing the chances that no pact gets completed by the deadline next March. On August 23rd Britain's government will publish the first of a series of technical notes to help people prepare for the risk of a no-deal Brexit.

European responses to Britain's demands—which largely amount to retaining the coveted benefits of EU membership while shedding the block's core obligations—have varied widely. The Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU), our sister company, has compiled an index that aggregates the positions of each country on each major negotiating issue into a single figure. Its analysts assess EU member states' stances on four main issues: trade in goods; movement of people; regulation of finance; and defence and security arrangements. It rates each of the issues on a scale from zero to ten, for a total assessment out of 40. Countries that score 30 or more are reckoned to have a "hard-core" negotiating position; those with scores of 25-29 are said to be "hard"; while those below 25 are "soft".

Germany and France have been the most influential countries in the EU for a long time and are unsurprisingly also the strongest defenders of its rules and principles during the Brexit process according to The Economist.

Iormlund

So not a single member being in favor of excluding Freedom of Movement is going soft?  :huh:

Zanza

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/26/have-people-inspected-at-irish-border-after-brexit-says-jacob-rees-mogg
QuoteJacob Rees-Mogg has sparked a fresh row about the status of the Irish border after Brexit after a video emerged in which he suggests a return to checks "as we had during the Troubles"
At least the arch brexiteer is open about their willingness to have a hard border in Ireland and breaking the Good Friday Agreement. I guess no price is too high for Brexit for this guy.

Josquius

Brexiters are scum.
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garbon

I do wonder if Rees-Mogg really needs all this oxygen given to him by the press.
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Zanza

Quote from: garbon on August 26, 2018, 01:10:24 PM
I do wonder if Rees-Mogg really needs all this oxygen given to him by the press.
Reminds me of Trump during the GOP primaries.

garbon

Or really Trump from the primaries to the current moment. :D
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

This struck me as odd. Does said Swedish minister know nothing about the Irish situation or is this article presenting things in a strange fashion?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/28/irish-border-question-must-be-solved-by-uk-not-eu-says-sweden
QuoteThe Irish border challenge in Brexit negotiations has to be solved by Britain, not the EU, the Swedish government has said.

The Swedish minister for EU affairs and trade, Ann Linde, said it was regrettable the Conservative party had made such an "extreme ideological" issue of the need to maintain the existing invisible border between Northern Ireland and Ireland after Brexit.

"I feel sorry that this issue of the backstop is being so extreme ideologically and difficult here. I think it is unfortunate that this backstop has become so loaded and a matter of ideology," she told the Guardian.

She made her remarks just hours after a private meeting with the Brexit secretary, Dominic Raab, in London. "After our meeting [with Raab] it's clear this issue is very, very difficult [for the Tories]," she said.

Linde said it was up to Britain to come up with a solution.

"As it looks now, we try to find what if there is any way for a soft border. I think this is for Britain to find out. Britain is leaving and it wants to make use of the single market, that's in the white paper.

"The British have been talking about the technical solutions but little detail on the backstop," she said.

Linde, who visited Dublin and Belfast in May to find out more about the border issue, said the impasse was "complicated to solve" but added: "It is not for us to figure out."

She was speaking as it emerged that Jacob Rees-Mogg, the head of the hard-Brexit European Research Group of Tory MPs, said it would be possible to "inspect" people crossing the border in similar vein to checks during the Troubles.

His comments were branded "ill-informed" by the Irish deputy prime minister, Simon Coveney.

Linde said Britain already accepted checks on the Irish Sea for animal health so the opposition to different regimes in Northern Ireland and Britain post-Brexit was inconsistent on a policy level.

"As I see it, there are already border checks because Ireland is an island for example with animals," she said.


There has been speculation that the EU would budge on its sequencing to see if an overall deal on customs and the single market would obviate the need for a backstop for Ireland.

However, Linde said the EU was insistent on a backstop, because it would operate as an insurance policy for Ireland whoever was in power in Westminster.

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"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Zanza

Not sure what you find odd. Linde, representing the official EU position on the topic? Or the official position itself? Or that the EU/Linde do not get that the Conservative and Unionist party is ideologically opposed to shared sovereignty over Northern Ireland (which is basically the EU proposal)?