Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

Started by Josquius, February 20, 2016, 07:46:34 AM

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How would you vote on Britain remaining in the EU?

British- Remain
12 (11.9%)
British - Leave
7 (6.9%)
Other European - Remain
21 (20.8%)
Other European - Leave
6 (5.9%)
ROTW - Remain
35 (34.7%)
ROTW - Leave
20 (19.8%)

Total Members Voted: 99

Gups

Nowhere I specifically avoid but large swathes I never go to.

Syt

Quote from: Gups on March 13, 2025, 04:14:22 AMNowhere I specifically avoid but large swathes I never go to.

Goes for most cities, I assume. I mean, there's no place in Vienna I avoid, but there's areas I just have no real reason to go to most of the time.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Tamas

Quote from: Josquius on March 13, 2025, 02:13:02 AMGenerally anywhwere  outside zone 1.

Some man of the people you are.  :P

But yes.

mongers

Quote from: Gups on March 13, 2025, 04:14:22 AMNowhere I specifically avoid but large swathes I never go to.

This.

If you take the 'myth' that London is a series of connected towns and villages, then there were be many hundreds if not thousands of them that I've never visited, despite having lived and worked in London.

Also Croydon, never been there, but nothing against it, just not on the way to anywhere for me.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

dist

Is Croydon ever on the way to anywhere for anyone?

Josquius

Quote from: Syt on March 13, 2025, 04:24:20 AM
Quote from: Gups on March 13, 2025, 04:14:22 AMNowhere I specifically avoid but large swathes I never go to.

Goes for most cities, I assume. I mean, there's no place in Vienna I avoid, but there's areas I just have no real reason to go to most of the time.

Applies on a national level too.
Unless you're really weird and value ticking off every county or such, then really why would you ever purposefully visit Derby or Sunderland or the like.
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mongers

Quote from: Josquius on March 13, 2025, 07:27:40 AM
Quote from: Syt on March 13, 2025, 04:24:20 AM
Quote from: Gups on March 13, 2025, 04:14:22 AMNowhere I specifically avoid but large swathes I never go to.

Goes for most cities, I assume. I mean, there's no place in Vienna I avoid, but there's areas I just have no real reason to go to most of the time.

Applies on a national level too.
Unless you're really weird and value ticking off every county or such, then really why would you ever purposefully visit Derby or Sunderland or the like.

Even I've visited Derby; at night out there, followed by a gig at the mega bingo complex there.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Richard Hakluyt

The main reason to visit parts of outer London is if you have friends there. These days I visit Perivale and Peckham, simply because I have old friends there.

Tamas

Quote from: dist on March 13, 2025, 07:18:55 AMIs Croydon ever on the way to anywhere for anyone?

From Epsom to Streatham the train went through it :p

Gups

Quote from: dist on March 13, 2025, 07:18:55 AMIs Croydon ever on the way to anywhere for anyone?

Sure. It's on the way to Gatwick, Brighton and lots of lovely countryside in Sussex and Surrey. It also has a hub railway station. I'm not a fan but have been there dozens of times (jury service, IKEA etc) and been through it hundreds of times.

Gups

Quote from: Tamas on March 13, 2025, 05:14:16 AM
Quote from: Josquius on March 13, 2025, 02:13:02 AMGenerally anywhwere  outside zone 1.

Some man of the people you are.  :P
Quote from: Josquius on March 13, 2025, 07:27:40 AM
Quote from: Syt on March 13, 2025, 04:24:20 AM
Quote from: Gups on March 13, 2025, 04:14:22 AMNowhere I specifically avoid but large swathes I never go to.

Goes for most cities, I assume. I mean, there's no place in Vienna I avoid, but there's areas I just have no real reason to go to most of the time.

Applies on a national level too.
Unless you're really weird and value ticking off every county or such, then really why would you ever purposefully visit Derby or Sunderland or the like.

But yes.

I've never been to the north east at all. But I feel bad about it and want to remedy it. Not Sunderland or Middleborough but Newcastle, Durham and the Northumbrian coast and countryside.

You are missing out if you don't venture out of zone 1 in London. Camden, Islington, Greenwich, Brixton, Peckham are all interesting, vibrant places amongst many others.

Tamas

Well I have done the touristic bits outside Zone 1, plus the big market-thing in Camden. It was an experience but I am not itching to go back.

Josquius

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I was being tongue in cheek when I said not outside of zone 1. TBH I thought Camden was in zone 1 since its walking distance from Kings Cross- though I note it and basically everywhere I usually go are in the far NE of the zone.
I've been quite lucky in most times I've gone to London the office has been walking distance from Kings Cross.
Thinking where else I've been-
City of London, Buckingham Palace, Westminster, etc... typical tourist bits in the centre.
I stayed in Uxbridge for a week once for work stuff.
Heathrow airport various times.
Gatwick once.
Stanstead once.
City airport once.
Two embassies.
One time I visited I stayed a few days with people living in IIRC Forest Hill. On this visit I also visited Brixton (thus learning in my 30s that Electric Avenue is a real place) and some other totally random south of the river place which had an old school eel and mash shop (sorry London, Japan does it better).
Wembley once on footballing matters.





And yes. Newcastle, Durham, and various rural spots (Whitby and Robin Hoods Bay :wub:) are absolutely places to visit.
My point in mentioning Sunderland is not that its a bad place. Its a perfectly fine city. With its coast its a much nicer city than many in the UK.
But if you're visiting the region there's no real special reason to go there unless you've got friends or you're going to a football match or are really into George Washington or the history of glassmaking some other niche that I don't expect to be common.


Anyway. All very irrelevant :p
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Richard Hakluyt

I can recommend the North-East as a tourist destination. I tend to favour renting a place on the Northumbrian coast up Bamburgh way. The coast is beautiful there, sand dunes and expansive empty beaches; you are also in easy daytrip distance to Newcastle and Durham. Edinburgh is also a good daytrip if you start early.There are not even that many tourists there though I think it may be slowly getting on the map due to youtube publicity.

Oh, if you want to swim take a wetsuit  :lol:


Gups

Quote from: Josquius on March 14, 2025, 04:21:34 AMI was being tongue in cheek when I said not outside of zone 1. TBH I thought Camden was in zone 1 since its walking distance from Kings Cross- though I note it and basically everywhere I usually go are in the far NE of the zone.
I've been quite lucky in most times I've gone to London the office has been walking distance from Kings Cross.
Thinking where else I've been-
City of London, Buckingham Palace, Westminster, etc... typical tourist bits in the centre.
I stayed in Uxbridge for a week once for work stuff.
Heathrow airport various times.
Gatwick once.
Stanstead once.
City airport once.
Two embassies.
One time I visited I stayed a few days with people living in IIRC Forest Hill. On this visit I also visited Brixton (thus learning in my 30s that Electric Avenue is a real place) and some other totally random south of the river place which had an old school eel and mash shop (sorry London, Japan does it better).
Wembley once on footballing matters.


They are usually called pie and mash shops but do sell jellied eels, which almost everyone Londoner or not would agree are utterly disgusting and not at all to be compared with eels in Japanese or Basque cuisine. The pies are OK but nothing special.