What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?

Started by Zanza, February 11, 2016, 01:51:35 PM

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What is your choice for the New Zealand flag?

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Zanza

February 11, 2016, 01:51:35 PM
New Zealand will have a referendum on their flag in March (3rd to 24th March). Which do you prefer?

chipwich

#1
February 11, 2016, 02:15:53 PM
The leaf is awful but it's still better than the imperial relic.

Barrister

#2
February 11, 2016, 02:20:54 PM
Quote from: chipwich on February 11, 2016, 02:15:53 PM
The leaf is awful but it's still better than the imperial relic.

Apparently the polls in New Zealand show "the imperial relic" is in a commanding lead. :punk:
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Valmy

#3
February 11, 2016, 02:37:49 PM
New flag sucks. Keep the old one until you come up with something better.

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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Admiral Yi

#4
February 11, 2016, 02:39:41 PM
I'm OK with the fern flag except for that black patch.

celedhring

#5
February 11, 2016, 02:40:06 PM
Old flag is boring. New flag is meh. Tough choice.

lustindarkness

#6
February 11, 2016, 02:59:00 PM
Since they will not have a flag with a drunk Kiwi screwing a sheep, I will cast my vote for the new fern flag.
Grand Duke of Lurkdom

celedhring

#7
February 11, 2016, 03:08:05 PM
The people of New Zealand really missed a trick by not going with this one:



bogh

#8
February 11, 2016, 03:11:07 PM
Yeah, the new design is bland and uninspired IMO. Only thing it's got going for it is that it looks nothing like the Australian flag.

It won't be adopted. John Key (PM) wanted to adopt the Silver Fern flag (All Blacks style), but that went sour and he's sort of given up on the project. The RSA and other people have also been pretty good at building opposition to any change. At this point it's really mostly a token effort for the government to not loose face by abandoning the process.

Valmy

#9
February 11, 2016, 03:18:00 PM
Quote from: chipwich on February 11, 2016, 02:15:53 PM
The leaf is awful but it's still better than the imperial relic.

Well that is the thing. The flag is a relic. People have attachments to relics.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

bogh

#10
February 11, 2016, 03:36:05 PM
Gallipoli comes up a lot in the debate.

The Larch

#11
February 11, 2016, 04:07:22 PM
I like the 2nd fleg better.  :P

Grinning_Colossus

#12
February 11, 2016, 04:17:26 PM
Yet another example of the politics of empty symbolism instead of substance. New Zealand needs to become a republic and *then* change the flag. :P
Quis futuit ipsos fututores?

bogh

#13
February 11, 2016, 04:23:31 PM
NZ isn't going republic anytime soon. The royal family draws out huge crowds every time they're here and knighthood has been restored not long ago. Since the Treaty of Waitangi (the fundamental contract between Maori and Europeans) is between Crown and Maori, it would also require a major redefinition of the country in a lot of ways.

I suspect Key is really a republican (former investment banker, rationalist business man), so flag change was his quiet rebellion. Even that is set to fail spectacularly though, so he's probably happy he never went further.

This is a classic when talking about the flag debacle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz29_bFxBZA

Maximus

#14
February 11, 2016, 04:25:44 PM
The leaf is way better.
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