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Started by Eddie Teach, January 31, 2016, 05:47:52 AM

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Say you're at the Iowa Democratic caucus- who do you vote for?

Sanders
31 (46.3%)
Clinton
25 (37.3%)
Littlefinger
5 (7.5%)
Sanders, but only to make it easier for GOP to win
2 (3%)
Clinton, but only to make it easier for GOP to win
0 (0%)
Write in for Biden :(
1 (1.5%)
Write in for Trump :wacko:
3 (4.5%)

Total Members Voted: 66

Martinus


Eddie Teach

They are synonyms, though I think condescending is more openly negative.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Razgovory

Quote from: grumbler on March 21, 2016, 06:34:21 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 21, 2016, 03:28:32 PM
Quote from: Zanza on March 21, 2016, 03:20:53 PM
Tyrion for President.

Tyrion is SOOO establishment though.

He's pretty much exactly the opposite.  He's a bastard of the exiled royal family who was only reluctantly acknowledged as as the son of an establishment figure in order to avoid an anti-establishment backlash.  He is as outsider as outsider gets.

Yeah, except for the 99% of the population who aren't part of a royal family.  They might be more of an outsider then that.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Eddie Teach

True outsiders have piercing blue eyes and icy cold skin.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

celedhring

Quote from: garbon on March 25, 2016, 05:43:01 AM
Interesting as they finally do the Dems.



What do the highlighted phrases mean?

Sanders seems to repeat more platform - significant phrases than Clinton.

garbon

I think it highlights what they think are characteristic statements of the candidates - at least that was the case when they did Republicans. Here was their take.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/these-are-the-phrases-that-sanders-and-clinton-repeat-most/

QuoteThe differences here are stark, and they line up well with the dominant narrative of this race. Clinton is the candidate of action, stressing strong verbs and first-person pronouns; Sanders is the protest candidate, listing problems that he thinks need more attention. Read from top to bottom, the former secretary of state's talking points resemble a cover letter put through a blender; the Vermont senator's list reads like a socialist stream of consciousness of American problems with Scandinavian solutions.

For all the talk of Clinton's stilted performances and Sanders's from-the-gut delivery, the latter is the more repetitive candidate by far. I expected to see "millionaires and billionaires" in Sanders's top 20 but had to scroll through dozens of higher-scoring phrases like "corporate America" and "Goldman Sachs" before finding it at No. 72.

As I mentioned in my previous article, tf-idf is a relative measure, so a score of 25 means only "higher than 20." Longer and more repeated phrases score higher, and phrases that have also been used by other candidates score lower.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

DGuller

It's really bad style to highlight something without explaining the meaning of highlighting.  Pretty surprising to see it from 538, who are usually pretty good about such things.

garbon

Quote from: DGuller on March 25, 2016, 01:11:43 PM
It's really bad style to highlight something without explaining the meaning of highlighting.  Pretty surprising to see it from 538, who are usually pretty good about such things.

Well here is exactly what they said for Repubs. So I suppose what they think are core statements that say something about the candidate.

QuoteBeyond highlighting some stone-cold classics — "right to keep and bear arms" — and quintessential Trumpisms — "we don't win" — this analysis reveals each candidate's verbal tics. Ted Cruz daydreams about the possibilities "if I am elected president," while Rubio, fresh off a string of third- and fourth-place victories, predicts the glorious future "when I'm president." Trump shoots from the hip with "I have to say"; Cruz betrays his Ivy League past with "I would note." And John Kasich ... well, he mostly just talks about his record in Ohio.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Razgovory

Am I the only Democrat who think that Sanders might be a little crazy.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017