and now.... Honduras.

[Siege]

A couple Latin American countries are going to attack the United States somehow?

I remember people saying the same thing about muslims 8 or 9 years ago.

[viper37]

When did that happen? And anyway, do you really think that there'd be military action over this?

a couple of days ago, there were reported border clash with troops.  It haven't escalated so far, but we never know.

To answer your question, in the present context, no.  With Zelaya in the country instead of out, maybe.


EDIT (links)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090705/ts_nm/us_honduras_nicaragua_sb

[Neil]

A couple Latin American countries are going to attack the United States somehow?

I remember people saying the same thing about muslims 8 or 9 years ago.

No muslim country has ever successfuly attacked the United States.

[grumbler]

I remember people saying the same thing about muslims 8 or 9 years ago.

I remember people saying the same thing about Israelis before the USS Liberty was bombed, napalmed, torpedoed, and machine gunned.

[The Larch]

When did that happen? And anyway, do you really think that there'd be military action over this?

a couple of days ago, there were reported border clash with troops.  It haven't escalated so far, but we never know.

To answer your question, in the present context, no.  With Zelaya in the country instead of out, maybe.


EDIT (links)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090705/ts_nm/us_honduras_nicaragua_sb

Border clash? The article only mentions movements of small groups of Nicaraguan troops inside their own borders, hardly border clashes. Besides the only source for this info is the Honduran interim government itself, so I'd take it with a pinch of salt. IMO this talk of military threat is wildly overstated. How Zelaya out of the country makes hypothetical attacks less likely is lost to me, I'd rather say the opposite.

[KRonn]

Fortunately for us Chavez is an inept idiot who will dig his own grave.  No reason to interrupt him ruining his prospects.

If his influence were limited to Venezuela, I'd agree with you, more or less.  But I think we've underestimated his ability to impact the region.  He has managed to (via influence, money, bribery, etc.) get his friends elected in other countries, and has co-opted them into his sphere of influence (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolivarian_Alliance_for_the_Americas).

We failed to contain Chavez, and I think things will get a lot worse for the US in Latin America (as well as Latin American itself) before they get better.  Eventually the pendulum may swing back the other way, but as it stands we have few friendly governments in the region and quite a few who oppose us to some degree.

This I agree with and figured it was pretty obvious what the Chavez plan was and the impact he was having on some of his neighbors. Though really, I don't know significant it is or will be, or how far it can expect to go to have much impact. That's why I said that I figure there's maybe (a big maybe perhaps though) some threat of Chavez intervening in Honduras, in the name of Democracy (his style of course), to try and have a like minded President reinstated. Then Chavez could help push for changes so that Zelaya's referendum has some chance.

[viper37]

Border clash? The article only mentions movements of small groups of Nicaraguan troops inside their own borders, hardly border clashes. Besides the only source for this info is the Honduran interim government itself, so I'd take it with a pinch of salt. IMO this talk of military threat is wildly overstated. How Zelaya out of the country makes hypothetical attacks less likely is lost to me, I'd rather say the opposite.

http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/other-views/story/1130265.html
http://www.etaiwannews.com/etn/news_content.php?id=995290

[derspiess]

Our current DoS is a bunch of spineless bastards & the current Administration sucks at foreign policy... film at 11.

http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed1/idUSN27328207

[Valmy]

Our current DoS is a bunch of spineless bastards & the current Administration sucks at foreign policy... film at 11.

http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed1/idUSN27328207

Goddamnit!

Why won't people just do nothing when it is in their own interests?

[KRonn]

Our current DoS is a bunch of spineless bastards & the current Administration sucks at foreign policy... film at 11.

http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed1/idUSN27328207

What a crock of bs this is. Honduras was acting according to their own law, and that was trying to avoid the possibility of becoming another nation ruled by a long term, or even life time, president/dictator/what ever. And the US is moving to cut aid? Foreign policy Fail....   

[Valmy]

What a crock of bs this is. Honduras was acting according to their own law, and that was trying to avoid the possibility of becoming another nation ruled by a long term, or even life time, president/dictator/what ever. And the US is moving to cut aid? Foreign policy Fail....   

Yep that fucking sucks.  Obama loses big points for this bullshit.

I don't think we should go around cheering on Honduras but we shouldn't be forcing them to change their leader...are we trying to kiss up to Chavez?

[derspiess]

Yep that fucking sucks.  Obama loses big points for this bullshit.

I don't think we should go around cheering on Honduras but we shouldn't be forcing them to change their leader...are we trying to kiss up to Chavez?

It's either extreme ignorance about Honduras's constitution, or an extreme desire to make other nations like us even though they never will.  Or just pure leftist solidarity.  Not sure which of those is worst.

[jimmy olsen]

Horrifying

[DGuller]

Wow, it seems pretty retarded given the information presented to us.

[garbon]

Here's to hoping the recommendation isn't pursued.