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Started by I Killed Kenny, June 28, 2009, 02:36:49 PM

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Valmy

Yeah I guess it remains to  be seen if this is the military protecting the republic or the military deciding to be the republic.

Either way is not good but the former is better than the latter.

Frankly if the people of Latin America want to be ruled by a bunch of Chavezs they deserve what is coming to them.  Elites cannot save people from their own idiocy forever.  But it seems most Latin American countries rightly recognize that is a real bad idea.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

DGuller

I'm starting to think that South American politics can be a bit unstable.

Valmy

Quote from: DGuller on June 29, 2009, 09:57:13 AM
I'm starting to think that South American politics can be a bit unstable.

[Harrison Ford]A bit unstable! I'm glad you're here to tell us these things.[/Harrison Ford]

By the way Honduras is not in South America.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

MadImmortalMan

The default answer at the WH seems to be that "deeply concerned" line. I wonder if they have an autoresponder bot at the State Department.
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KRonn

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 29, 2009, 10:04:56 AM
The default answer at the WH seems to be that "deeply concerned" line. I wonder if they have an autoresponder bot at the State Department.
"Deeply concerned"

Perhaps that phrase does not mean what the auto respond bot thinks it means....   ;) 

Valmy

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 29, 2009, 10:04:56 AM
The default answer at the WH seems to be that "deeply concerned" line. I wonder if they have an autoresponder bot at the State Department.

Sounds good to me.  Doing nothing should always be what we do unless there is a compelling reason to do otherwise.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

derspiess

Meanwhile, in other Latin American news, the Kirchners got their asses kicked in Argentina's election :cool:
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KRonn

Lip service by the Obama admin on opposing this coup? I doubt they like the idea of a Chavez like leader emerging in Honduras (or anywhere else for that matter).

derspiess

Quote from: KRonn on June 29, 2009, 07:47:41 PM
Lip service by the Obama admin on opposing this coup? I doubt they like the idea of a Chavez like leader emerging in Honduras (or anywhere else for that matter).

They should let the buzz die down a bit, and then recognize the new gov't. in a few days :)
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Fireblade

I doubt Obama really gives a fuck who's in charge in Honduras.

Hansmeister

Quote from: KRonn on June 29, 2009, 07:47:41 PM
Lip service by the Obama admin on opposing this coup? I doubt they like the idea of a Chavez like leader emerging in Honduras (or anywhere else for that matter).

Why wouldn't he?  He seems perfectly chummy with Chavez.  Apparently it is wrong to meddle in Iran, but ok to meddle in Honduras.  The only consistency is that in both cases Obama came to the support of the anti-american, thuggish regime.

You're much better off being an enemy of the US than a friend with this Administration.

jimmy olsen

Looks like there's gonna be a showdown, though I can't see how the ex-president hopes to succeed.

http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSN0520325220090705

QuoteU.N.'s D'Escoto to travel to Honduras with Zelaya
Sun Jul 5, 2009 1:20pm EDT

WASHINGTON, July 5 (Reuters) - United Nations General Assembly President Miguel D'Escoto will accompany ousted President Manuel Zelaya to Honduras, Ecuadorean President Rafael Correa said on Sunday.

"There is a great mobilization of people in Tegucigalpa and we don't know if the interim government or the top brass of the military will dare repress those people. So we decided that the most prudent thing to do was that the president of the U.N. General Assembly Miguel D'Escoto accompany President Zelaya back to Tegucigalpa," Correa said at a news conference in Washington.

In Central America's first coup since the Cold War era Zelaya, Zelaya, a leftist who took power who had been due to leave office in 2010, was ousted by troops and sent into exile a week ago after a dispute over presidential term limits.

Correa said Zelaya would return to Honduras on Sunday. He provided no details about the trip.

Latin American countries had advised Zelaya against a return to Honduras, saying it could sharply escalate tension. The interim government has said it would arrest him if he returns.

Organization of American States Secretary-General Jose Miguel Insulza, Argentine President Cristina Fernandez and Paraguayan President Fernando Lugo and Correa will travel to neighboring El Salvador to monitor Zelaya's return, Correa said.

"The time is running out for this interim government and not because of international pressure, but because of the Honduran people's pressure," Correa said, speaking after a meeting in Washington with the group of Latin American presidents who will travel to El Salvador.

The OAS had met earlier on Sunday in Washington and took the rare step to suspend Honduras after the interim authorities ignored an ultimatum by the 34-member body to reinstate Zelaya.

(Reporting by Alonso Soto, Editing by Stacey Joyce and Sandra Maler)
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Ed Anger

Oh no, the president of the UN general assembly!
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Strix

Quote from: I Killed Kenny on June 28, 2009, 02:36:49 PM
Will this revolution kill the michael jackson week? or will Michael jackson make veryone forget about this little country?

Too late, I thought Honduras was some new hybrid being put out by Honda.  ;)
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Neil

Hopefully the Hondurans have all these interlopers executed.
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