Odell Beckham Jr. vs. Toxic Black Masculinity

Started by jimmy olsen, December 29, 2015, 11:19:02 PM

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I have to say that I was surprised when I read this today, given that all I recalled about Beckham's private life was that time some blonde coed posted an instagram photo of her and Beckham with the tag "I fucked Odell Beckham jr."

Of more concern to me is that the dude has serious anger management issues and is a head hunting cheapshot artist, which is what I thought this article would be about when I saw the words Odell Beckham and Toxic Black Masculinity in the same sentence.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2015/12/29/odell_beckham_jr_gay_rumors_show_the_problem_with_black_masculinity.html

QuoteOdell Beckham Jr. vs. Toxic Black Masculinity

By Rafi D'Angelo

I hope Odell Beckham Jr. never comes out. Actually, I hope the New York Giants wide receiver isn't even gay. I hope he ends up with the flyest chick on the block, and they give joint interviews where she says she enjoys a man who's fun and lives his life and doesn't feel the need to scowl 24/7, hunched over like a Neanderthal trying to protect his manhood.


In case you missed it, there's an outing campaign in progress against Beckham, because over the weekend someone posted a video to Instagram of him dancing with a friend. (Well, the same people calling his video "suspect" already said he was gay due to similar videos, but now I guess he's even gayer.) This sort of witch hunt is the reason why black men and athletes still don't like coming out of the closet, and black masculinity continues to make life more difficult for all of us, regardless of our sexuality.


The response to this video is the difference between black masculinity and white masculinity in a nutshell. White men are allowed a greater range of expression before they are automatically considered gay. The boys in Marvel movies are always flirting and nobody cares. Matt McGorry can say his male co-star has a pretty mouth and nobody cares. Channing Tatum "vogued" and nobody cares.


But a black football player dances a little with a male friend and it's proof-positive. In my own experience, a lot of my gay white friends are damn near distraught when someone calls them a "faggot." I'm not good at consoling them since I hear it at least once a month—as a black man, if a white guy and I are going out in the same exact outfit, strangers will read him as "artistic" while I'm just "gay."


And that's why I don't want Beckham to be gay. If he does, in fact, bat for our team and takes it upon himself to come out at some point, good on him. We need more gay visibility in professional sports, especially hypermasculine ones like football. But more important, we need more black men who aren't afraid to live outside of the box of black masculinity built for us by society and reinforced by our own community.


If Beckham came out, he'd be met with "well, duh, look at him dancing around and acting like a faggot, we already knew that." Beckham as a straight man—if the public ever truly accepts him as a heterosexual—is the type of black man we never get to see. For every Prince wearing heels and ass-less pants while unabashedly pursuing some of the most beautiful women on the planet, there are 10 black fathers telling their sons they can't take ballet because it's for "sissies," or black women passing up black men deemed "too soft" for listening to Beyoncé, or black fans calling a celebrity "suspect" for wearing pants that are too tight. We've always had to be a little bit stronger, a little bit tougher, and a little more resilient than our white counterparts, and it has made us hypervigilant against any sign of weakness. Since we live in a society where being gay is the ultimate expression of being weak, anything associated with gay men must be avoided at all costs. No dancing, no fashion, no art. Don't put whipped cream on your drink, because that's gay. Don't dye your hair, because that's gay. Don't put your arm around your friend, because y'all are gay. Don't have fun in general, because that's definitely gay.


Masculinity is a double-edged sword for a lot of men, even if they've never given thought to the subject—especially black men who have the desire to break away from the stereotypes. On the one hand, it would be great to expand the boundaries of what it means to be a man in this society. Why can't we dance? Why can't we smile in pictures? Why can't we wear what we want? Why can't we have feelings or be vulnerable or be sensitive toward others? On the other hand, no one wants to break the mold because no one wants to be forced to give up their masculinity. No one wants their sexuality questioned, which by default makes you less of a man in the eyes of many onlookers. How do you expand the definition of black masculinity while still satisfying the desire to be seen as masculine in a society that tends toward misogyny and hating any of the negative traits commonly ascribed to femininity?


A first step is following Beckham's lead: Live your life. You do what you want, and to hell with everyone else. You dye your hair if you want. You wear tight pants if you want. You dance with your friend if you want. And then you go play football if you want.


Perhaps more important, gay black men have to leave unconventional straight guys alone. It's not just the homophobes on message boards calling for Beckham to come out—it's us, too. Every time we comment on something he does with a quip like, "I see you, Sis!" we're reinforcing those boxes. We're saying that someone must be gay because he's not adhering to the standards of black masculinity we've ascribed to heterosexual men. We're setting back our own cause and our own push for acceptance by contributing to an us vs. them mentality, in which we're over here interested in These Things and straight black men are over there interested in Those Other Things. If you're over here in our interests, then you must be one of us, because why would you ever voluntarily jeopardize your place in Black Manhood if you weren't an undercover queen?


Why can't we just let our black men be as carefree as white men? We already have so much to deal with in this society, largely stemming from the perpetuation of aggressive black masculinity, which continuously makes us seem a threat to white society. Let our boys have fun and smile. The entire world is set up with hurdles to make them fail. Why add to the stress with rules and regulations for how they should express themselves to be accepted as men in the community? Leave Odell Beckham Jr. alone. If he's gay, y'all aren't doing a good job convincing him to ever come out. And if he's not, we need more men like him—don't force him into a box somebody else made. Let him dance.
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The Larch

QuoteWhite men are allowed a greater range of expression before they are automatically considered gay.

Wut?

Valmy

Quote from: The Larch on December 30, 2015, 07:44:42 AM
QuoteWhite men are allowed a greater range of expression before they are automatically considered gay.

Wut?

Yeah that article is just weird. Society is all about accusing black men of being gay? That is a new one.
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Quote from: Valmy on December 30, 2015, 07:54:44 AM
Yeah that article is just weird. Society is all about accusing black men of being gay? That is a new one.

It's true. Just look at Languish as an example. We accuse garbon of that all the time.  :(
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Quote from: Malthus on December 30, 2015, 08:55:33 AM
Quote from: Valmy on December 30, 2015, 07:54:44 AM
Yeah that article is just weird. Society is all about accusing black men of being gay? That is a new one.

It's true. Just look at Languish as an example. We accuse garbon of that all the time.  :(

Meanwhile noone believes me I am gay. :(

Razgovory

Quote from: Malthus on December 30, 2015, 08:55:33 AM
Quote from: Valmy on December 30, 2015, 07:54:44 AM
Yeah that article is just weird. Society is all about accusing black men of being gay? That is a new one.

It's true. Just look at Languish as an example. We accuse garbon of that all the time.  :(

I can't think of anyone who represents black masculinity better garbon.  Toxic or not.  Except when he's being Indian.  That's just gay.
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It will be ronaldo that will be the big event of gays in sport. Assuming it is actually a thing of course.
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Quote from: Martinus on December 30, 2015, 08:57:58 AM
Quote from: Malthus on December 30, 2015, 08:55:33 AM
Quote from: Valmy on December 30, 2015, 07:54:44 AM
Yeah that article is just weird. Society is all about accusing black men of being gay? That is a new one.

It's true. Just look at Languish as an example. We accuse garbon of that all the time.  :(

Meanwhile noone believes me I am gay. :(

I believe you. :)
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Norgy

Quote from: Tyr on December 30, 2015, 09:41:27 AM
It will be ronaldo that will be the big event of gays in sport. Assuming it is actually a thing of course.

Calling him "gay" because he just left a defender crying doesn't make him gay.
And if he is gay, it doesn't make him less of a colossal prick or a great footballer.

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Valmy on December 30, 2015, 07:54:44 AM
Quote from: The Larch on December 30, 2015, 07:44:42 AM
QuoteWhite men are allowed a greater range of expression before they are automatically considered gay.

Wut?

Yeah that article is just weird. Society is all about accusing black men of being gay? That is a new one.

Other black people, not "society".
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Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 30, 2015, 12:28:08 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 30, 2015, 07:54:44 AM
Quote from: The Larch on December 30, 2015, 07:44:42 AM
QuoteWhite men are allowed a greater range of expression before they are automatically considered gay.

Wut?

Yeah that article is just weird. Society is all about accusing black men of being gay? That is a new one.

Other black people, not "society".

Maybe. But the article does not make that clear.

QuoteThe response to this video is the difference between black masculinity and white masculinity in a nutshell. White men are allowed a greater range of expression before they are automatically considered gay. The boys in Marvel movies are always flirting and nobody cares. Matt McGorry can say his male co-star has a pretty mouth and nobody cares. Channing Tatum "vogued" and nobody cares.

But a black football player dances a little with a male friend and it's proof-positive. In my own experience, a lot of my gay white friends are damn near distraught when someone calls them a "faggot." I'm not good at consoling them since I hear it at least once a month—as a black man, if a white guy and I are going out in the same exact outfit, strangers will read him as "artistic" while I'm just "gay."

Strangers will do this. I presume this includes Asian ladies and Latino dudes as well. White men are allowed things...but by who? Black people?
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Valmy on December 30, 2015, 12:52:12 PM
Maybe. But the article does not make that clear.

How I interpret this part:

QuoteFor every Prince wearing heels and ass-less pants while unabashedly pursuing some of the most beautiful women on the planet, there are 10 black fathers telling their sons they can't take ballet because it's for "sissies," or black women passing up black men deemed "too soft" for listening to Beyoncé, or black fans calling a celebrity "suspect" for wearing pants that are too tight. We've always had to be a little bit stronger, a little bit tougher, and a little more resilient than our white counterparts, and it has made us hypervigilant against any sign of weakness. Since we live in a society where being gay is the ultimate expression of being weak, anything associated with gay men must be avoided at all costs. No dancing, no fashion, no art. Don't put whipped cream on your drink, because that's gay. Don't dye your hair, because that's gay. Don't put your arm around your friend, because y'all are gay. Don't have fun in general, because that's definitely gay.
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Josquius

I thought dancing was a well established part of the black guy stereotype :unsure:

Quote from: Norgy on December 30, 2015, 10:30:33 AM
Quote from: Tyr on December 30, 2015, 09:41:27 AM
It will be ronaldo that will be the big event of gays in sport. Assuming it is actually a thing of course.

Calling him "gay" because he just left a defender crying doesn't make him gay.
And if he is gay, it doesn't make him less of a colossal prick or a great footballer.

There's a lot more to it than that. He is spending every spare moment with a certain guy.
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