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Whither Trump?

Started by Jacob, December 07, 2015, 07:31:19 PM

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Come the 2016 Presidential Elections in the US, where will Trump be?

Presidential Candidate for the Republican Party
18 (40.9%)
Presidential Candidate in an Independent/ Third Party run?
9 (20.5%)
Not a presidential candidate at all.
16 (36.4%)
Some other scenario...
1 (2.3%)

Total Members Voted: 44

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Jacob on December 18, 2015, 12:58:10 PM
According to the Atlantic, Putin was the 10th most admired man in the US in 2014: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/12/vladimir-putin-the-10th-most-admired-man-in-america/384085/

OK, that's 1% of the American public I haven't had much contact with.

Josquius

I guess there's always the whole "Western leaders hate them ergo they're good" crowd.
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Eddie Teach

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 18, 2015, 01:04:21 PM
Quote from: Jacob on December 18, 2015, 12:58:10 PM
According to the Atlantic, Putin was the 10th most admired man in the US in 2014: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/12/vladimir-putin-the-10th-most-admired-man-in-america/384085/

OK, that's 1% of the American public I haven't had much contact with.

It's Russian immigrants who know the FSB is monitoring their votes.
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DGuller

 :rolleyes: They do no such thing.

Jacob

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 18, 2015, 01:04:21 PM
Quote from: Jacob on December 18, 2015, 12:58:10 PM
According to the Atlantic, Putin was the 10th most admired man in the US in 2014: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/12/vladimir-putin-the-10th-most-admired-man-in-america/384085/

OK, that's 1% of the American public I haven't had much contact with.

Me neither :)

But yeah, it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Tyr on December 18, 2015, 01:08:29 PM
I guess there's always the whole "Western leaders hate them ergo they're good" crowd.

American peaceniks can say and do some stupid shit, but they're not in the same league as Brit peaceniks.

Razgovory

I remember Putin arm wrestled Dana Rohrbacker and won the respect of the Congressmen.  I think he attract support from anyone dissatisfied with the West be it Hard Left or Hard Right.  There are also some who buy into his macho image.
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mongers

Quote from: Razgovory on December 18, 2015, 03:04:04 PM
I remember Putin arm wrestled Dana Rohrbacker and won the respect of the Congressmen.  I think he attract support from anyone dissatisfied with the West be it Hard Left or Hard Right.  There are also some who buy into his macho image.

Yes, you and Jacob's comments make a lot of sense.

I can imagine a bunch of the occupy crowd I used to know, lapping this up.


It's also a good move on Putin's part, a Trump 'administration'/shambles would be easier to influence and deal with.
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garbon

Quote from: Jacob on December 18, 2015, 12:29:06 PM
Quote from: garbon on December 18, 2015, 09:01:26 AM
I wonder how that will play with supporters.

I wonder if Trump will be able to get a sense of Putin's soul?

... but I think it'll play well with Trump's supporters. There are plenty of people outside of Russia who appreciates Putin's style and wish their own leaders were more like him.
I disagree. I don't think Russia is viewed favorably by most Americans let alone trump supporters.
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jimmy olsen

Two new polls out. PPP has Donald at 34 and Cruz at18. Fox has Trump at 39 and Cruz at 18. I believe that's the highest those two have been in both those polls.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_republican_presidential_nomination-3823.html
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katmai

Never knew GOP want Hillary to be prez so bad
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Ed Anger

With trump not condemning reporter killing, he has jumped into my top 3.

I hate the press.
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jimmy olsen

Trump's up 8 points in the PPP poll since it was last issued a month ago.

Trump's up 11 points in the Fox poll in the last month.

Up 6 in the ABC poll over the last month. Up 13 in CBS/NYT poll. Up 13 in the Monmouth poll. Up 9 in the CNN/ORC. Up 4 in the NBC/WSJ poll.

All the signs point to hyuge momentum as the Donald would say.
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Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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