Psellus Does the Byzantine Commonwealth: My Balkan Adventures

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Syt

Quote from: Queequeg on February 21, 2016, 11:48:41 AMI wish I could find some way to work with migrant populations here, I have no idea how this city manages to have so many Serbs, Turks, Albanians, Croats and Arabs without exploding every night.

Well, every now and then we get this ...

http://www.thelocal.at/20160308/50-teens-in-mass-brawl-as-afghan-and-chechen-rivalry-continues

QuoteFifty teens in violent brawl in Austria

A fight between 50 teenagers that left seven people injured and five arrested has become the latest incident in an ongoing feud between young Afghans and Chechens living in Austria.

The fight, which happened at the weekend near the Base 20 youth centre in Vienna's Brigittenau district, started following online bullying and insults made over social media.

The argument quickly escalated to the streets, where the youths armed with knives, iron bars and wood, attacked one another in a mass brawl.

According to Gabriele Langer, the head of the youth centre, there had been no indicators beforehand that there was a problem and the fight had suddenly started when a group of young Chechens left the centre and met the Afghans outside.

She added that the insulted teenagers probably felt group pressure to respond in order to "save face".

Most of the group fled when police arrived, although five were arrested and seven people aged between 14 and 17-years-old were hurt, including with life-threatening injuries.

Following the fight, locals said many residents now had a 'bad feeling', with witness Maria Ritt saying: "I feel uncomfortable if I go out alone."

Conflicts between young ethnic groups in Austria is nothing new but is now, according to Langer, "mixed with the asylum topic".

Ten years ago around 30,000 Chechens fleeing wars in their home region were granted asylum in Austria, at the time making them the biggest diaspora of that ethnic community in Europe.

By the end of 2014, however, the number of Afghans in Austria had overtaken the number of Chechens, and with it ethnic clashes between the groups on issues related to 'territory control', pride, women and drugs also increased.

Police have been called out to major fights between these two groups throughout Austria, including in Vienna, Graz, Salzburg, Wels, Linz and St. Pölten.

Speaking to newspaper Die Presse, spokesperson for the Vienna probation service Nikolaus Tsekas says the repeated clashes between Chechens and Afghans "has to do with the fact that they share many similarities."

Although they live in a strongly patriarchal society, according to the magazine Profil, around 50 percent of Chechens and Afghans in Austria do not have a father in their lives. Both communities suffer from low levels of education, with some people having missed years of schooling due to fleeing wars, and high levels of unemployment.

Tsekas adds: "Both groups have a bad reputation. It is now probably also about deciding who has the toughest guys."

Efforts have been made with some success to calm the conflict between the groups in Vienna, with community leaders working with the police on the issue. The latest brawl, however, suggests much more work is needed to resolve the peace between the two.
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Capetan Mihali

Doesn't sound like a Muslim thing so much as a "Jets vs. Sharks" scenario...
"The internet's completely over. [...] The internet's like MTV. At one time MTV was hip and suddenly it became outdated. Anyway, all these computers and digital gadgets are no good. They just fill your head with numbers and that can't be good for you."
-- Prince, 2010. (R.I.P.)

Tamas

Quote from: Capetan Mihali on March 08, 2016, 06:58:20 AM
Doesn't sound like a Muslim thing so much as a "Jets vs. Sharks" scenario...

Yes. The Thirld World Edition.

Syt

Quote from: Capetan Mihali on March 08, 2016, 06:58:20 AM
Doesn't sound like a Muslim thing so much as a "Jets vs. Sharks" scenario...

Much worse music, though.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Queequeg

Still in Warsaw.  Trying to find work until the fall.  However, I am eating pljeskavica and drinking nikshichko while wearing a SRBIJA sweater, so I am obviously somewhat confused.
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

Duque de Bragança

Quote from: Syt on March 08, 2016, 07:45:42 AM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on March 08, 2016, 06:58:20 AM
Doesn't sound like a Muslim thing so much as a "Jets vs. Sharks" scenario...

Much worse music, though.

Islamic rap battle? At least, you avoided Balkan technopop.

Queequeg

I can confirm that turbofolk is one of the worst things to ever happen.
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

The Larch

Quote from: Queequeg on March 12, 2016, 10:32:26 AM
I can confirm that turbofolk is one of the worst things to ever happen.

It is terrible, yes, but in my limited exposure it seems to be slightly better than Manele, the Romanian version of turbofolk.

Queequeg

Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

The Larch

Quote from: Queequeg on March 12, 2016, 02:23:52 PM
Larch, have you been to both Serbia and Romania?

Haven't been to Romania (yet) but know plenty of Romanians.

Queequeg

I GOT A JOB IN AUSTRIA!  I WILL BE LIVING THERE FOR 4 MONTHS!
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

Eddie Teach

To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Barrister

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Valmy

Quote from: Queequeg on March 18, 2016, 09:34:16 AM
I GOT A JOB IN AUSTRIA!  I WILL BE LIVING THERE FOR 4 MONTHS!

Are you going to be working taking care of the children of a widowed former navy captain?
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Capetan Mihali

Quote from: Valmy on March 18, 2016, 12:09:12 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on March 18, 2016, 09:34:16 AM
I GOT A JOB IN AUSTRIA!  I WILL BE LIVING THERE FOR 4 MONTHS!

Are you going to be working taking care of the children of a widowed former navy captain?

Painting watercolors.
"The internet's completely over. [...] The internet's like MTV. At one time MTV was hip and suddenly it became outdated. Anyway, all these computers and digital gadgets are no good. They just fill your head with numbers and that can't be good for you."
-- Prince, 2010. (R.I.P.)