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French regional elections

Started by Duque de Bragança, December 06, 2015, 03:56:58 PM

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Duque de Bragança

No thread on it? Well, the so-called Jacobine France has regional elections.
Fun fact for Valmy, in Île-de-France (Greater Paris and hinterland), the FN list was headed by SAINT-JUST! Wallerand though. ;) Quite a good score, so this means the PS has a chance with the Mitterrand maneuver...  :rolleyes:
No definitive results yet.
FN first in Nord-Picardie (North) with Marine meh, Provence Alpes Côte d'Azur (SE) with the lovely Marion, also in Greater Burgundy/Franche-Comté, the new great East Region (French Lotharingia?) including Alsace, Lorraine and Champagne-Ardenne, Languedoc-Roussillon Midi Pyrénées (SW) and Centre-Val de Loire. Yes, lots of these new huge regions do not make much sense.


QuoteFrance's far-right National Front has topped the first round of regional elections with a 30.6 percent lead, according to IFOP Fiducial exit poll.

The National Front secured it's lead nationally ahead of former president Nicolas Sarkozy's conservative Les Republicains party and their allies, who secured 27 percent.

President Francois Holland's ruling Socialists came third polling 22.7 per cent.

Overall, the National Front party is ahead in at least 6 out of 13 regions according to early estimates.

A run off is to be held on December 13.

http://www.france24.com/en/20151206-liveblog-french-regional-elections-2015

Martim Silva

#1
Don't expect Americans to get much of French elections...

Quote from: Duque de Bragança
Yes, lots of these new huge regions do not make much sense.

Actually, they do.

With few exceptions, they match 1-2 of the old Duchies. I love them!  :frog:


Ignore the names and see them like this:

Picardie
Champagne et Lorraine
Ile de France (royal demesne)
Normandie
Bretagne
Anjou (Pays de la Loire)
Touraine
Bourgogne/Franche Comté
Aquitaine/Limousin
Auvergne
Languedoc + Roussillon
Provence

And they look nice ^^

That said, if you ARE so worried with the FN, the EU will just send a few more million muslim migrants to live in your country. Then you will have the France you want and not to worry about the FN anymore.

Just with the mass riots by the muslims when then wish to establish a Muslim Party to take over and the Rrrrrépublique tries (in vain) to stop a party with a religious tone.

Liep

Besides hating Muslims, what side is FN on?
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Legbiter

#3


I just spotted the Languish candidate.  :)

Posted using 100% recycled electrons.

Duque de Bragança

Quote from: Martim Silva on December 06, 2015, 04:20:36 PM
Don't expect Americans to get much of French elections...

Quote from: Duque de Bragança
Yes, lots of these new huge regions do not make much sense.

Actually, they do.

With few exceptions, they match 1-2 of the old Duchies. I love them!  :frog:


Ignore the names and see them like this:

Picardie
Champagne et Lorraine
Ile de France (royal demesne)
Normandie
Bretagne
Anjou (Pays de la Loire)
Touraine
Bourgogne/Franche Comté
Aquitaine/Limousin
Auvergne
Languedoc + Roussillon
Provence



I said new regions. Île-de-France is not a new one. Missing the historical Beauvaisis and Noyonnais. ;) Sames goes for Provence/PACA with the ugly acronym, despised locally.
Nord-Picardie makes somewhat sense, though Amiens will suffer from it, compared to Lille Metropolis.
Normandy reunited? Yes, makes sense.
Greater Burgungy? Maybe, though no complete Greater Lotharingia. See below.

The others not so much.
Champagne-Ardennes + Lorraine + Alsace is the new greater East region. Alsatians were not so happy. I guess you could see it as French Lotharingia excluding Greater Burgundy.
Aquitaine-Limousin was made for the PS and its ilk like Ségolène Royal.
Auvergne has been merged with Rhône-Alpes (Lyon basically)
Val-de-Loire goes beyond Touraine (Tours) since it means Orléans as well. It includes most of Anjou. Poitou linked with Tours might have made more sense. With Bordeaux? Only warranted for Charentes-Maritime.
Brittany is still incomplete, no Nantes.



Admiral Yi


Duque de Bragança

Quote from: Liep on December 06, 2015, 04:41:45 PM
Besides hating Muslims, what side is FN on?

Anti-globalization, anti-EU, anti-atlanticist nowadays, anti-immigration (end of family regrouping and of subsidies to "identity politics/"so-called refugees"/)) and pro-Putin. Stricter laws on citizenship (nothing special for Danes I guess  :P); end of jus soli. Strong focus on security and hard on crime stance e.g return of the death penalty (guillotines with Saint-Just!).
Recycles some positions of the good ol' commies à la Marchais i.e till the mid '80s.

Thing is, these are regional elections. So it's more about regional transport (public local/regional/city transport), economy, labour (apprentices and professional training), housing (social kind), regional sports and culture. Yes, not the FN turf a priori.

derspiess

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Valmy

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on December 06, 2015, 03:56:58 PM
FN first in Nord-Picardie (North) with Marine meh

Wait...the FN won the People's Republic of Lille? Holy shit. Things have certainly changed.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Valmy on December 07, 2015, 12:04:03 AM
Wait...the FN won the People's Republic of Lille? Holy shit. Things have certainly changed.

My understanding is that throughout Europe the right nationalist parties have been gaining their strength from traditionally left or far left working class voters.

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Tonitrus

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 07, 2015, 12:25:49 AM
Quote from: Valmy on December 07, 2015, 12:04:03 AM
Wait...the FN won the People's Republic of Lille? Holy shit. Things have certainly changed.

My understanding is that throughout Europe the right nationalist parties have been gaining their strength from traditionally left or far left working class voters.

Blue dog French democrats?  :P