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Started by Duque de Bragança, December 06, 2015, 03:56:58 PM

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Martinus

#17
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 07, 2015, 01:38:48 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on December 07, 2015, 01:33:35 AM
Blue dog French democrats?  :P

Mindless lumpenproletariat.

Yeah, the electorate of FN is almost exactly the same as that of Trump, in terms of education, demographics and mindlessness.

The popularity comes largely from failure* of mainstream politics to tackle globalization, including mass migrations of the last decades.

*The only debate is whether the failure was avoidable or not. Both FN and Trump propose bad solutions to a problem that may very well be insolvable.

Duque de Bragança

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 07, 2015, 01:38:48 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on December 07, 2015, 01:33:35 AM
Blue dog French democrats?  :P

Mindless lumpenproletariat.

Nope, Lumpenproletariat would the foreign origin suburban tracksuits. FN voters among Muslims is low, with the notable exceptions of harkis (former Muslim auxiliary troops of the Algerian War).
Proletariat that used to vote for the Communists? Yes.

Duque de Bragança

#19
Quote from: Valmy on December 07, 2015, 12:04:03 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on December 06, 2015, 03:56:58 PM
FN first in Nord-Picardie (North) with Marine meh

Wait...the FN won the People's Republic of Lille? Holy shit. Things have certainly changed.

The left has abandoned its social roots. They are more into multiculturalism and "society" issues (sociétal above social) these days. Thing is, French proles do not care that much about gender theory, surrogacy, are indifferent about the great achievement that is homo marriage and so on. French prolétariat also scorns multiculturalism. "Anti-racism" as whitey as the untermensch and PC are despised too.

As for Lille, they still have a PS mayor, don't worry. The new region with the Calais jungle mess, already had high FN scores before.

Legbiter

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on December 07, 2015, 04:14:52 AM
The left has abandoned its social roots. They are more into multiculturalism and "society" issues (sociétal above social) these days.

What the progressive left here seems to care about are trannies, displaying Stockholm Syndrome/kind and sensitive person fetish towards Islam, obnoxious jailhouse feminism and Maldivian sea levels in the 21st century. In that order.

Posted using 100% recycled electrons.

Duque de Bragança


Martinus

Quote from: Legbiter on December 07, 2015, 06:12:18 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on December 07, 2015, 04:14:52 AM
The left has abandoned its social roots. They are more into multiculturalism and "society" issues (sociétal above social) these days.

What the progressive left here seems to care about are trannies, displaying Stockholm Syndrome/kind and sensitive person fetish towards Islam, obnoxious jailhouse feminism and Maldivian sea levels in the 21st century. In that order.

It only goes to show why educated people should abandon the left for the free market liberals. Let the poor suffer - there isn't much good from them anyway.

Valmy

Quote from: Martinus on December 07, 2015, 03:24:44 PM
It only goes to show why educated people should abandon the left for the free market liberals. Let the poor suffer - there isn't much good from them anyway.

False choice. Lame. Anyway people are not abandoning the left for free market liberals but right wingers nationalist types who will be happy to continue welfare state stuff for Teh NationTM
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Jacob

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on December 07, 2015, 03:56:28 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 07, 2015, 01:38:48 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on December 07, 2015, 01:33:35 AM
Blue dog French democrats?  :P

Mindless lumpenproletariat.

Nope, Lumpenproletariat would the foreign origin suburban tracksuits. FN voters among Muslims is low, with the notable exceptions of harkis (former Muslim auxiliary troops of the Algerian War).
Proletariat that used to vote for the Communists? Yes.

Yeah that's my take.

It's the working class voters who miss the class war politics that directly took care of their concerns, and are not satisfied with the new streams on the left that are either just a shade pinker than your average neo-liberal on one hand, or who focus primarily on identity politics on the other.

Crazy_Ivan80

http://www.fondspascaldecroos.org/inhoud/werkbeurs/de-greep-van-de-angst-de-europese-sociaal-democratie-en-het-rechtspopulisme

this book -I don't think there's an English translation though- from 2005 describes the phenomenon (the old socialist base turning their backs on the, now, gauche-caviar and ending up voting for what is called the extreme-right but is more often than not -going by their social policies- another shade of socialist) quite well, with examples from France, Austria, Denmark, Flanders, the Netherlands and Sweden (where at that time the shift hadn't been made but seems to be happening right now).

derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Duque de Bragança


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What does a Flemish lion do behind her?  I thought all French Flemish were almost died out.

Duque de Bragança

She is candidate for the new huge region Nord-Picardie. French Flanders are in Nord-Pas-de-Calais
The local gendarmerie has the Flemish lion on its uniform. The Flemish lion flag is sometimes used as the unofficial flag of Nord-Pas-de-Calais.
Picardie flag has Lys flowers and three Red Lions.

As for Flemish extinct, French wiki articles estimations vary between 20,000 to 40,000 billingual speakers still around
Latter estimate from this article http://www.lavoixdunord.fr/region/bientot-une-charte-pour-sauver-le-ch-ti-et-les-74-autres-ia0b0n2994164