Facebook Follies of Friends and Families

[Razgovory]

Moronic memes aren't even worth posting here, let alone debating here.

And the black-and-white "Israelis good, Palestinians bad" and "Palestinians good, Israelis bad" arguments are also moronic.  Arguments need to have nuance if they are intended to be seen as anything but shitslinging monkey postings.

This IS the thread for moronic memes.

No, this is the thread for interesting or amusing posts from Facebook.  If you post a meme that is so moronic that the viewers can't tell if it is "Israelis good, Palestinians bad" or "Palestinians good, Israelis bad" that just makes you look as moronic as the meme itself.  There's nothing to discuss if there is no message in the Facebook post you are quoting.

I am sorry you were insufficiently interested or amused.  I think it was clear, "Palestinians good, Israeli bad"  There is admitly some ambiguity as many people of that tribe believe that Hitler did nothing wrong, but this came from a Stalinist page, so we'll ignore that.  Again, I'm sorry if your tribe was injured as a result of any meme posted by me.

[grumbler]

I am sorry you were insufficiently interested or amused.  I think it was clear, "Palestinians good, Israeli bad"  There is admitly some ambiguity as many people of that tribe believe that Hitler did nothing wrong, but this came from a Stalinist page, so we'll ignore that.  Again, I'm sorry if your tribe was injured as a result of any meme posted by me.

It's funny how you tribals think everyone else must be tribal, too. Sorry if it hurts the feelings of your tribe to say it, but it just ain't so.

[Razgovory]

Of course.

[Syt]

Meanwhile, on Linkedin ...

[Norgy]

Starmer looks so comfy there. 

[The Minsky Moment]

What sane and decent person would want a country to be run as a business?  It's an asinine question.

[crazy canuck]

I still think it's funny to see JFK give in to the loyalty test of eating a big mac.  Principles only get one so far I guess.

[Duque de Bragança]

Meanwhile, on Linkedin ...

Linkedin? 
New low. 

[Syt]

What sane and decent person would want a country to be run as a business?  It's an asinine question.

Do the Dutch and English/British East India Companies count? Serious question.

[Barrister]

What sane and decent person would want a country to be run as a business?  It's an asinine question.

It's a simplistic question, but not quite asinine.

There are ways where you can wish government was run a little more like a business.  But there are also ways where you realize why it can't be.

[Norgy]

What sane and decent person would want a country to be run as a business?  It's an asinine question.

I've met several, and they usually point to how well Switzerland works. Where entering a public park costs a fee. 

In their wisdom, the conservatives here privatised railroads and split the old state company into several smaller more specialised ones. Let us just say trains do not run on time in Norway. It has, however, given a lot of CEOs massive bonuses for "performance", the internal revenue services report. Give me boring state run companies any day instead.

[Josquius]

I've met several, and they usually point to how well Switzerland works. Where entering a public park costs a fee. 
In their wisdom, the conservatives here privatised railroads and split the old state company into several smaller more specialised ones. Let us just say trains do not run on time in Norway. It has, however, given a lot of CEOs massive bonuses for "performance", the internal revenue services report. Give me boring state run companies any day instead.

Which park is this?
Switzerland is stupidly neo liberal on some things but I've never heard that about the parks.
On public transport however that's something where they've realised its just common sense to have most things be state owned.

The only way private railways work is when they're old-school holdovers or third sector operators. I've not heard of a single occasion where a full railway privatisation worked.

[The Minsky Moment]

The closest thing to a country run like a business is communist dictatorship.  A politboro (board of directors) with a controlling Chairman/CEO supervising managers (cadres) that run everything.  The regular workers/citizens have no right to participate in management decisions and certainly have no role in choosing their leaders. The bosses decide what work regular folk do and cand "fire" (deport/imprison/execute) anyone that displeases them.

I understand why this model appeals to the Musks and the technobros who think they can replicate this model as a technocracy (of course the Soviets thought much the same way) but for everyone else it is a nightmare.

[The Minsky Moment]

To be clear, the post-Reagan/Thatcher capitalist model is one where the un-unionized corporate business enterprise is hierarchical and authoritarian.  This is bearable only because and to the extent the workers can exercise the effective veto power of the ability to leave at will for something better.  Competition, assuming it exists, makes the system viable.  At the level of an entire country, however, it is just straight up dictatorship.

[Barrister]

To be clear, the post-Reagan/Thatcher capitalist model is one where the un-unionized corporate business enterprise is hierarchical and authoritarian.  This is bearable only because and to the extent the workers can exercise the effective veto power of the ability to leave at will for something better.  Competition, assuming it exists, makes the system viable.  At the level of an entire country, however, it is just straight up dictatorship.

Are you arguing with me?  Or some other person who actually is defending the "run government like a business" argument that I can't see?