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Started by Syt, December 06, 2015, 01:55:02 PM

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grumbler

Never click on a video whose title is grammatically incorrect.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

The Minsky Moment

FSB needs to upgrade their Russian-to-English auto translate.
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Darth Wagtaros

Come no now, it could be the Chinese instead.  Or the British. At this point the whole world can get their cyber and psychological warfare training wheels with the US.
PDH!

Zanza

Just read an article about the latest social media craze (in Germany?): Dubai Chocolate. People queueing up to buy a regular size chocolate at 15 Euro or so. Absurd.

Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: Zanza on November 17, 2024, 12:46:03 PMJust read an article about the latest social media craze (in Germany?): Dubai Chocolate. People queueing up to buy a regular size chocolate at 15 Euro or so. Absurd.

tastes like slave labour?

Duque de Bragança

#14465
It's been a while!  :P

night video of air attack followed by air defense response Footage of the intercontinental missile night attack on Dnipro

A
QuoteThanks to Mr Biden's (or his aides) we will now have the longest two months in history ahead of us. 🔥📆 📃✍️🕊� Can you imagine where we'd be by now if we'd had another four years of this?? 🤯🤯🤯 Corruption, greed, and stupidity know no bounds.

B

QuoteInstead of that say thanks to Putin, who started the war against Ukraine and who will never stop as long as we allow him to continue.

A

Quoteneutrality was Ukraine's best long term option, not trying to join NATO and have a whole generation wiped out and one fifth of its territory lost. This was warned 25 years ago. Countries neighbouring superpowers bear the responsibility (or opportunity) to be the gateway between opposite views. Finland's peace and prosperity was based on that during the Cold War. And you know that very well. 🕊�🇫🇮
How would the US react if Mexico announced it was joining a military alliance with China? How did the US react when Soviet missiles were discovered on their way down to Cuba?

PS: edited since I found the reference of the footage. I knew the manipulative use of video was even worse that it looked.

Grey Fox

Quote"The Orange Revolution helped me realize freedom and democracy are not free," Tokariuk said. "They need to be protected and people need to defend their right to have free and fair elections."
Colonel Caliga is Awesome.

Valmy

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on November 22, 2024, 02:16:31 PM
Quoteneutrality was Ukraine's best long term option, not trying to join NATO and have a whole generation wiped out and one fifth of its territory lost. This was warned 25 years ago.

So we are just going to ignore what happened in the Donbass and Crimea prior to the invasion?

QuoteHow would the US react if Mexico announced it was joining a military alliance with China? How did the US react when Soviet missiles were discovered on their way down to Cuba?

If we had seized Mexican territory and were supporting break away provinces, I would expect them to. I certainly wouldn't say that was Mexico's fault. If Mexico had formed a military alliance with the British after the Mexican-American War that would have been a justifiable move.

And I am pretty sure Cuba was a Soviet ally. And, as far as I know, the United States actively worked to remove missiles from Ukraine in coordination with Russia.

In any case I don't think a massive ground invasion to conquer either country would be a good move by the United States in either scenario.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

Quote from: Grey Fox on November 22, 2024, 02:48:47 PM
Quote"The Orange Revolution helped me realize freedom and democracy are not free," Tokariuk said. "They need to be protected and people need to defend their right to have free and fair elections."

No no, you should choose to be neutral and by neutral let Russia control your politics.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Duque de Bragança

#14469
Quote from: Valmy on November 22, 2024, 04:22:42 PMSo we are just going to ignore what happened in the Donbass and Crimea prior to the invasion?

Of course. As well as the Holodomor (I still dislike the transliteration which makes G as H but I digress). the war or Georgia in 2008, a closer example.

QuoteIf we had seized Mexican territory and were supporting break away provinces, I would expect them to. I certainly wouldn't say that was Mexico's fault. If Mexico had formed a military alliance with the British after the Mexican-American War that would have been a justifiable move.
Unwittingly, you almost hit the nail on the head. The post was by a Hispanic North American whose country took quite a hit from US imperial. Two wrongs make a right I guess  for some people.
Though you missed the possible solution: France, not England. All hail Maximilian! :D

QuoteAnd I am pretty sure Cuba was a Soviet ally. And, as far as I know, the United States actively worked to remove missiles from Ukraine in coordination with Russia.
True, but won't convince most American Hispanics.
QuoteIn any case I don't think a massive ground invasion to conquer either country would be a good move by the United States in either scenario.

Selective anti-imperialism, old grudges etc. beg to differ. :P

My favourite part was choosing Finland, which lost quite a lost of his territory and population to Soviet imperialism, being finlandised (not neutral) ,choosing it as an example while omitting that due to the newer Putin agression it's now a NATO member. Something unthinkable 10-12 years ago.

The Brain

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on November 23, 2024, 06:18:25 AMMy favourite part was choosing Finland, which lost quite a lost of his territory and population to Soviet imperialism, being finlandised (not neutral) ,choosing it as an example while omitting that due to the newer Putin agression it's now a NATO member. Something unthinkable 10-12 years ago.

Didn't lose as much population as one could expect at least, since pretty much the entire population of Karelia was successfully relocated before the Russians occupied it.
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Josquius

I don't get who is saying what here.
Wasn't an offer of guaranteed neutrality and no nato membership on the table from Ukraine before the invasion? - seems to be it's Russians whinging that they wanted this when they clearly weren't happy with it?
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Duque de Bragança

Quote from: The Brain on November 23, 2024, 09:46:51 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on November 23, 2024, 06:18:25 AMMy favourite part was choosing Finland, which lost quite a lost of his territory and population to Soviet imperialism, being finlandised (not neutral) ,choosing it as an example while omitting that due to the newer Putin agression it's now a NATO member. Something unthinkable 10-12 years ago.

Didn't lose as much population as one could expect at least, since pretty much the entire population of Karelia was successfully relocated before the Russians occupied it.

Did they entirely relocate the population of Viipuri/Vyborg, second city of Finland back then?
After checking wiki (sorry), it seems so.  :hmm: Still not the best argument for neutrality or rather finlandisation.

Duque de Bragança

Quote from: Josquius on November 23, 2024, 10:03:29 AMI don't get who is saying what here.
Wasn't an offer of guaranteed neutrality and no nato membership on the table from Ukraine before the invasion? - seems to be it's Russians whinging that they wanted this when they clearly weren't happy with it?

Just check the arguments of A vs B in the original post.
And yes, the so-called arguments of A sound like pro-Kremlin whinging.

Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017