Facebook Follies of Friends and Families

[Barrister]

The far left is not so much about that workers stuff anymore. They are a bunch of privileged abled people or something.

That became quite clear in Canada, when the left-wing party embraced a platform of wiping out the oil and gas industry, together with the hundred thousand blue collar working jobs that go with it.

[derspiess]

Well, obviously the Canadian left came to the realization that Canada needs more green jobs. 

[DGuller]

The far left is not so much about that workers stuff anymore. They are a bunch of privileged abled people or something.

That became quite clear in Canada, when the left-wing party embraced a platform of wiping out the oil and gas industry, together with the hundred thousand blue collar working jobs that go with it.

Not commenting on this issue in particular one way or the other, but the jobs created or jobs destroyed arguments in such discussion are such a total bullshit, for a number of reasons.  If you legalize contract killing, you can create some hit man jobs, as well as some jobs for administrative assistant to handle the orders and the associating billing.  However, I think we're better off without creating such jobs.

[Malthus]

The far left is not so much about that workers stuff anymore. They are a bunch of privileged abled people or something.

That became quite clear in Canada, when the left-wing party embraced a platform of wiping out the oil and gas industry, together with the hundred thousand blue collar working jobs that go with it.

Not commenting on this issue in particular one way or the other, but the jobs created or jobs destroyed arguments in such discussion are such a total bullshit, for a number of reasons.  If you legalize contract killing, you can create some hit man jobs, as well as some jobs for administrative assistant to handle the orders and the associating billing.  However, I think we're better off without creating such jobs.

Yeah, but he's talking about wiping out the already established hit man industry.

[Razgovory]

The far left is not so much about that workers stuff anymore. They are a bunch of privileged abled people or something.

At least in Poland, the only true leftists belong to the generation younger than mine, who all have rich parents funding their alternative lifestyles. Nobody who was at least 10 when the communism ended wants to come even close to socialism.

Huh, I thought the concept of a worker's solidarity was something of a big deal for Poles who remember the 1980's.

[Martinus]

Well, obviously the Canadian left came to the realization that Canada needs more green jobs.

If everybody else listened we would not have global warming and Daesh terrorists.

[Martinus]

The far left is not so much about that workers stuff anymore. They are a bunch of privileged abled people or something.

At least in Poland, the only true leftists belong to the generation younger than mine, who all have rich parents funding their alternative lifestyles. Nobody who was at least 10 when the communism ended wants to come even close to socialism.

Huh, I thought the concept of a worker's solidarity was something of a big deal for Poles who remember the 1980's.

Not really. The Polish revolution was mainly based on conservative and/or libertarian principles.

[Razgovory]

Libertarians hate trade unions.  Seems odd that they would all belong to one.  Hell, the American AFL-CIO sent money and equipment to the Solidarity movement.

[Brazen]

On a page dedicated to a disabled rescue cat:

"GOD bless you for adopting this loving cat. I two adopted two cats and all I get is unconstitutional love in return." 

[Norgy]

On a page dedicated to a disabled rescue cat:

"GOD bless you for adopting this loving cat. I two adopted two cats and all I get is unconstitutional love in return." 

But the UK has no written constitution. Are they violating the Magna Carta?

[Martinus]

Libertarians hate trade unions.  Seems odd that they would all belong to one.  Hell, the American AFL-CIO sent money and equipment to the Solidarity movement.

It's complicated. In 1980s it was a worker movement but mainly because a worker movement was the only type of movement that the regime would listen to - just like the French revolution started with upset aristocrats and bourgeoisie despite ending up as a popular revolution.

But almost all of the elites that grew out of the movement and took over in the 1990s belonged to two camps - pro-free-market neoliberals and Catholic conservatives. There were hardly any socialists there.

[Martinus]

On a page dedicated to a disabled rescue cat:

"GOD bless you for adopting this loving cat. I two adopted two cats and all I get is unconstitutional love in return." 

Love that does not dare to speak its meow.

[Norgy]

Libertarians hate trade unions.  Seems odd that they would all belong to one.  Hell, the American AFL-CIO sent money and equipment to the Solidarity movement.

It's complicated. In 1980s it was a worker movement but mainly because a worker movement was the only type of movement that the regime would listen to - just like the French revolution started with upset aristocrats and bourgeoisie despite ending up as a popular revolution.

But almost all of the elites that grew out of the movement and took over in the 1990s belonged to two camps - pro-free-market neoliberals and Catholic conservatives. There were hardly any socialists there.

What happened to the "reformed" communist party? Aren't they sort of social democrats now? Have they been utterly annihilated during elections?

I know a few Poles here in Norway, and they seem very traditionalist and deeply Catholic. Which I guess is natural, given that they had 50 years of communist propaganda to revolt against.

I think the Norwegian trade union council also supported Solidarity with funds. Walesa was kind of a big deal here back in the early 80s. And Jaruszelski with his huge glasses and strict appearance a perfect tabloid bogeyman along with Brezhnev.

[Brazen]

[Eddie Teach]

Heh, I googled that, hoping it was real.