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Don’t erase Woodrow Wilson. Expose him.

Started by garbon, November 26, 2015, 08:23:33 AM

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Martinus

Quote from: Syt on November 30, 2015, 04:37:40 AM
Quote from: Martinus on November 30, 2015, 04:31:33 AM
Wilson is worshipped in Poland. There are only two other US Presidents who have a major square/street named after them.

The others probably FDR and Kennedy?

FDR sure. Absolutely no reason to revere Kennedy. The third one is Reagan.

celedhring

Same in the Czech Republic, btw, my perception of Wilson stems from the times I spent there, and how idolized he was by the locals.

Wilsonová is also a major street in Prague.

Martinus

He is seen as the father of the post-Versailles order. I bet he is liked in Hungary. :D

Syt

There's an FDR hospital in Bratislava. I once asked a Slovak why it's named for him and she said because he did so much for Slovakia. When pressed she was unable to give any specifics, though.
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Martinus

I guess we like US Presidents who were in power when a major world war ended (give or take a few months).

So that's Wilson for WWI, FDR for WWII, and Reagan for the Cold War. :P

Syt

There's stuff named for Kennedy in Germany (and Vienna), but I couldn't think of anything named after Reagan. :hmm:

On googling, there seems to have been some controversy about naming a street/square in Berlin after him.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Martinus

Sorry, I was wrong. There is no Reagan street but we have a major Washington Roundabout.

celedhring

#82
Wilson is relatively popular in the streets of Catalan towns, due to his stance on self-determination. He doesn't have a street in Barcelona though (Washington, Kennedy, Lincoln and a few others have, but very unimportant ones).

I can't think of many US presidents which have been influential in Spanish history, anyway, so we aren't likely to name large streets after them. There's one president that was pretty influential, but I haven't been able to find a single "Roosevelt" street in a major Spanish town  :P

Syt

One of the public housing projects from the 1920s/30s in Vienna is named after George Washington. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/George-Washington-Hof

It puts him in the company of Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels and Karl Liebknecht and other socialists. :lol:
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

garbon

Quote from: celedhring on November 30, 2015, 05:00:57 AM
I can't think of many US presidents which have been influential in Spanish history, anyway, so we aren't likely to name large streets after them. There's one president that was pretty influential, but I haven't been able to find a single "Roosevelt" street in a major Spanish town  :P

McKinley was fairly influential. :whistle:
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Quote from: Syt on November 30, 2015, 05:05:39 AM
One of the public housing projects from the 1920s/30s in Vienna is named after George Washington. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/George-Washington-Hof

It puts him in the company of Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels and Karl Liebknecht and other socialists. :lol:

American volunteers during the Spanish Civil War named their units the George Washington battalion and the Abraham Lincoln battalion.  Maybe there's some weird socialist significance to these guys we're not aware of.

Syt

Well, if I'm guessing that from their point of view Washington fought against the oppression of an autocratic regime, and Lincoln fought for the equality of all men.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

celedhring

Lincoln was a big socialist icon until the height of the Cold War. He was seen as a man that fought for equality, so nothing surprising about that.


Razgovory

I think it's important to remember that Grumbler knew Wilson and Wilson owed him one hundred and twenty bucks that was never paid back.
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Delirium

I like the original article, will try to use that in one of my history classes.
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