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Turkey shoots down Russian fighter jet

Started by Barrister, November 24, 2015, 10:43:23 AM

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Malthus

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alfred russel

Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 24, 2015, 04:28:57 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on November 24, 2015, 04:28:04 PM
He did yoga?

Not in the Russia vs. Turkey WWIII thread.

Martinus kept asking me questions (last time excepted). Can I blame him?

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lustindarkness

Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 24, 2015, 04:28:57 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on November 24, 2015, 04:28:04 PM
He did yoga?

Not in the Russia vs. Turkey WWIII thread.

The guy could walk on water, I'm sure he could do yoga without one of those yoga mats (can we still call them yoga mats?).
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FunkMonk

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citizen k

Quote from: KRonn on November 24, 2015, 01:12:50 PM. I'm sure Russians will be pissed about it, heck I'm pretty pissed about it.

1980's KRonn is crying.  :weep:


HisMajestyBOB

Supposedly this is Russia's version of events:
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DGuller

That's quite a sharp turn they took right before falling.  No wonder the pilots are dead, the g forces must've been into thousands.

Grinning_Colossus

Shooting pilots in their parachutes does seem rather dishonorable.
Quis futuit ipsos fututores?

Duque de Bragança

Also forbidden by the Geneva convention IIRC, though I am not sure how well it applies here. Armed conflict, yes but not legitimate war with war declaration and clearly defined enemies.

grumbler

Quote from: Martinus on November 24, 2015, 02:55:28 PM

I gotta say, I know that Turkey is a NATO ally but I don't know which side I despise more.

Yeah, that's pretty much the way the Brits felt when the Nazis attacked the Poles in 1939.
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Bayraktar!

grumbler

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on November 24, 2015, 07:31:50 PM
Also forbidden by the Geneva convention IIRC, though I am not sure how well it applies here. Armed conflict, yes but not legitimate war with war declaration and clearly defined enemies.

The GC doesn't require any of that.  It applied, for instance, to the Vietnam Wars.
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Bayraktar!

Syt

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/25/mideast-crisis-usa-france-idUSL8N13J5ER20151125

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A U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, told Reuters the United States believed the Russian jet was hit inside Syrian air space after a brief incursion into Turkish air space. The assessment was based on heat observed from the jet, the official said.

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Queequeg

Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on November 24, 2015, 03:38:17 PM
Quote from: Martinus on November 24, 2015, 03:13:36 PM
I am very conflicted on this, especially as the Polish media have started a ritual dance cheering on the Turks already. I have no love for either Putin and Erdogan. I would have felt better about it if the pilots weren't massacred as a result - they probably were just some kids, who were on a bomb run against ISIS, and they paid with their lives because of two assholes posturing.

Sorry for going all pinko on this. :P

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Maladict

A Dutch tour operator is advertising trips to Turkey "now without Russian tourists!"

DGuller

Quote from: Maladict on November 26, 2015, 01:49:10 AM
A Dutch tour operator is advertising trips to Turkey "now without Russian tourists!"
:pinch:  :lmfao: