The Paris Attack Debate Thread

[The Brain]

He does have 13 million twitter followers, placing him behind will.i.am, Paris Hilton, Ryan Seacrest and Ashton Kutcher.  Not sure what to make of that.  He is a Wahhabi, and it appears the vast majority of his followers are Saudi; the second most popular Saudi twitterite (11 million and rising) is a Ahmad Al-Shugairi, an Islamic moderate and reformist.  Even in the heartland of hardliner Salafi Islam, the fundamentalist message is contested.

It's silly to say Al-arifi has more influence than the Pope, it's not even close.  The Pope is the unquestioned religious leader of 1.25 billion Catholics; there are about 50 million Muslims worldwide that identify with Salafism, or about 3%.

How many terrorists does the Pope have?

[The Minsky Moment]

I am not sure that the argument that if we get rid of Muslims, we would also need to do the same with the Irish and Serbs, is really working as you guys intended. 

History teaches there is no way all those groups get wiped out without Poles and Jews coming first. 

[Valmy]

there are about 50 million Muslims worldwide that identify with Salafism, or about 3%.

Still more than twice the total number of Jews.

But granted a lot of Salafis don't actually do anything violent.

[Malthus]

How many terrorists does the Pope have?

Depends. How many people worked for Banco Ambrosiano? 

[DGuller]

I am not sure that the argument that if we get rid of Muslims, we would also need to do the same with the Irish and Serbs, is really working as you guys intended. 

History teaches there is no way all those groups get wiped out without Poles and Jews coming first. 

Okay, fine, the more the merrier.

[The Minsky Moment]

I find it amazing how so many of the so-called liberals are perfectly willing to turn a blind eye to evils perpetrated in the muslim countries, so that they do not appear "islamophobic".

When Martinus is on the warpath, not one particle of straw is safe.

[Martinus]

The punishment for failure to crop a quote shall be stoning.

Berkut quoting himself threw me off.

[Martinus]

He does have 13 million twitter followers, placing him behind will.i.am, Paris Hilton, Ryan Seacrest and Ashton Kutcher.

Let's not demonize the guy like that... 

[crazy canuck]

I find it amazing how so many of the so-called liberals are perfectly willing to turn a blind eye to evils perpetrated in the muslim countries, so that they do not appear "islamophobic".

When Martinus is on the warpath, not one particle of straw is safe.

He heard that guy on HBO say it.  Not Oliver, the other guy.

[grumbler]

Swift book veterans for truth?

  Wish I'd said that.

[grumbler]

The punishment for failure to crop a quote shall be stoning.

Amen!

Not that kind of getting stoned

* Stop that.  Stop it, will you stop that.  Now look, no one... is to stone anyone... until I blow this whistle.  *Even*...and I want to make this absolutely clear...*even* if they *do* fail to "crop their quotes" *

[big rock]

[Admiral Yi]

He does have 13 million twitter followers, placing him behind will.i.am, Paris Hilton, Ryan Seacrest and Ashton Kutcher.  Not sure what to make of that.  He is a Wahhabi, and it appears the vast majority of his followers are Saudi; the second most popular Saudi twitterite (11 million and rising) is a Ahmad Al-Shugairi, an Islamic moderate and reformist.  Even in the heartland of hardliner Salafi Islam, the fundamentalist message is contested.

I'm not sure that the fact that a cleric preaching jihad only has a few million more Twitter followers than one preaching moderation really advances your argument.  More like exactly the opposite I would say.

[grumbler]

I'm not sure that the fact that a cleric preaching jihad only has a few million more Twitter followers than one preaching moderation really advances your argument.  More like exactly the opposite I would say.

How many twitter followers does that Republican candidate who claims that Obamacare is worse than slavery have?

[The Minsky Moment]

Donald Trump has a lot of twitter followers, and the support of tens of millions of prospective primary voters.  He wants to among other things, reinstate "Operation Wetback," and close mosques.  I suppose one could conclude that the US must be a hotbed of fascism and racism because he has more twitter followers than Hillary Clinton or Marco Rubio. 

[The Minsky Moment]

I'm not sure that the fact that a cleric preaching jihad only has a few million more Twitter followers than one preaching moderation really advances your argument.  More like exactly the opposite I would say.

How many twitter followers does that Republican candidate who claims that Obamacare is worse than slavery have?