The Paris Attack Debate Thread

[Eddie Teach]

A more important question: if god is omnipotent, can he microwave a burrito so hot that even he cannot eat it?

Wow, your linguistic paradox has completely discredited the concept of omnipotence. Congratulations!

More seriously, though, I think the definition of omnipotence people use only applies to self-contained, measurable actions. An omnipotent being can heat a burrito to any specific temperature or ingest one at any specific temperature or create a boulder of any specific mass or lift that boulder, etc. How that action relates to other actions or the being's abilities is an extraneous layer of meaning on top; when it  is reduced to a measurable action, the paradox disappears.

[grumbler]

Yes.
And then he would eat it anyways.

Then he'd survive college.

[Syt]

Some US governors would make good EU heads of government:

http://www.nytimes.com/live/paris-attacks-live-updates/arkansas-governor-says-his-state-opposes-settling-syrian-refugees/

Multiple Republican Governors Say They Oppose the Entry of Syrian Refugees

My sisters are happy: http://www.fox13news.com/news/florida-news/50025186-story

Governor to feds: Keep Syrian refugees out of Florida

Gov. Rick Scott said the state will not be willing to accept any refuges from Syria, adding Florida to the growing list of states changing their minds in the wake of the Paris terror attacks.

After reports that one of the Paris terrorists posed as a Syrian refugee to gain access to Europe, Scott asked the federal government Monday not to send any Syrian refugees to Florida.

"We are probably the best melting pot in the world, Florida is," Scott said. "Let's find out what happened, especially when you find out one of the terrorists was posed as a refugee."

The governor's words elicited sharp criticism from the country's largest Islamic civil rights group, the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

"Why is he so weak that he is giving in to the demands of terrorist organizations?" asked CAIR's Florida chapter executive director, Hassan Shibly. "We fear that may incite further acts of violence, because they see they are getting exactly what they want."

Shibly points out a study by the non-partisan Migration Policy Institute that says of 784,000 refugees that have resettled in the United States since 9/11, only three were accused of plotting terrorism.

Further, the study said refugees endure a two-year screening process by American intelligence agencies.

"They're escaping from ISIS," said Shibly. "They are the victims of ISIS."

None of the terrorists in France have been confirmed to be Syrian refugees, though one reportedly posed as one.

The 25 state governors who said no to refugees, 24 of them being Republicans, insist they're playing it safe.

"It is imperative that Texas do everything we can to ensure that we don't have a Syrian refugee sneak into the state of Texas who can pose a similar terrorist nature," said Texas Gov. Greg Abbott.

[jimmy olsen]

I wonder if they outsource to Indian Muslims? 

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/paris-terror-attacks/isis-has-help-desk-terrorists-staffed-around-clock-n464391

ISIS Has Help Desk for Terrorists Staffed Around the Clock

[Monoriu]

I don't understand.  Say one state accepts the Syrians.  Can't they then move to another state to live or work?  Isn't it state to state, no papers?

[Savonarola]

Some US governors would make good EU heads of government:

http://www.nytimes.com/live/paris-attacks-live-updates/arkansas-governor-says-his-state-opposes-settling-syrian-refugees/

Multiple Republican Governors Say They Oppose the Entry of Syrian Refugees

My sisters are happy: http://www.fox13news.com/news/florida-news/50025186-story

Governor to feds: Keep Syrian refugees out of Florida

Gov. Rick Scott said the state will not be willing to accept any refuges from Syria, adding Florida to the growing list of states changing their minds in the wake of the Paris terror attacks.

Oh well, that's what happens when we elect the head of SPECTRE governor. 

[Savonarola]

I don't understand.  Say one state accepts the Syrians.  Can't they then move to another state to live or work?  Isn't it state to state, no papers?

Yes, this is largely an empty gesture.  I believe the state they move to provides some temporary shelter and maybe training, but in the long run they're free to move anywhere they please.

[Syt]

Speaking of empty gestures, courtesy of my brother in law:

[grumbler]

The panic of the (mostly Republican) governors is especially amusing when one realizes that the refugees that are to be accepted have been in Lebanese refugee camps for two years now waiting for admission to the US.  They aren't brand-new refugees.

Not that facts ever stopped a politician from a good news-making attack of hysteria.

[Duque de Bragança]

Greece still has a big army doesn't it? How about France hire them as mercanaries on the national level by paying off the country's debt?

I think if we're going to get Byzantium involved in the ME again, they should at least take back Constantinople first.

Don't forget that for French leftists and others, like former leftist/commies but not neo-cons, e.g Chirac, Turkey is the heir of Byzantium.

[Liep]

Because they're a Languish favourite:



They have weapons
Fuck them
We have champagne

I find it funny. /ducks and covers

[Liep]

Goddamn Duque.

[Monoriu]

I think the governors are rightly concerned with scenarios where crazy people with guns kill random civilians, given the many shootings that have taken place on US soil.  But instead of trying to prevent crazy people from getting guns, they seem to target the wrong people. 

[garbon]

Just pointed out that if the stories are in fact different, then the god in question is not one god but more than one, and hence the "See, we all believe in this thing together!" bit isn't really true.

Does that make sense though? I mean I'm sure different people who have at some point been in my life would tell wildly different stories about me. Are they not all talking about the same person?

[jimmy olsen]

Greece still has a big army doesn't it? How about France hire them as mercanaries on the national level by paying off the country's debt?

I think if we're going to get Byzantium involved in the ME again, they should at least take back Constantinople first.

Don't forget that for French leftists and others, like former leftist/commies but not neo-cons, e.g Chirac, Turkey is the heir of Byzantium.

Why would French leftists have any opinion whatsoever on who's the true "heir of Byzantium"?