Is another holocaust-scale genocide possible?

[PJL]

I'm living in what the British thought the Soviets would consider a high priority target (highest outside Central London) for nuking but apparently the Soviets didn't consider here a target.

[Syt]

In one of the last WP exercises published in the papers in the 90s, my old hometown was a first strike tactical nuke target; probably due to its stockpile of nuclear artillery munitions.

[Martinus]

Oh, look, Raz is off his meds again.

Oh is there something objectionable I said here?

Yeah I was wondering the same. For all the threads in which you post crazy shit, this one is pretty much normal.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

I think another genocide is likely, actually I think it is only a matter of when and where.  But my chance of being killed in a genocide is pretty small.  The chance of developing cancer or being hit by a car is much greater, so I am not going to worry about this.

Do you worry that you might take part in a genocide?


Or for that matter, might any of us in some way enable one perhaps?

I probably can't lift a gun, so no 

what about a machete?

[Monoriu]

I think another genocide is likely, actually I think it is only a matter of when and where.  But my chance of being killed in a genocide is pretty small.  The chance of developing cancer or being hit by a car is much greater, so I am not going to worry about this.

Do you worry that you might take part in a genocide?


Or for that matter, might any of us in some way enable one perhaps?

I probably can't lift a gun, so no 

what about a machete?

I think a machete is even more difficult to use than a gun. 

[Duque de Bragança]

I think another genocide is likely, actually I think it is only a matter of when and where.  But my chance of being killed in a genocide is pretty small.  The chance of developing cancer or being hit by a car is much greater, so I am not going to worry about this.

Do you worry that you might take part in a genocide?


Or for that matter, might any of us in some way enable one perhaps?

I probably can't lift a gun, so no 

what about a machete?

I think a machete is even more difficult to use than a gun.

How do you know that? 

[Valmy]

Yeah, the other groups are pretty small.  I think Valmy is basing his impressions on Indians living in the US or other Western countries.

Small? There are millions of them. I am basing my impressions on how actual Indian society and government functions instead of seeing a few headlines when things go wrong and start dreaming up wet dreams of constant ethnic violence. Imagine if somebody did that regarding headlines about Missouri.

[Valmy]

What three major religions do they have?

Sikhism (though Wiki suggests that there are more Christians in India than Sinkhs).

Right right. I meant Christians. Percentages do not really work when discussing religion in India. Even religions with small national percentages could totally dominate a region or state politically.

[Razgovory]

Yeah, the other groups are pretty small.  I think Valmy is basing his impressions on Indians living in the US or other Western countries.

Small? There are millions of them. I am basing my impressions on how actual Indian society and government functions instead of seeing a few headlines when things go wrong and start dreaming up wet dreams of constant ethnic violence. Imagine if somebody did that regarding headlines about Missouri.

Er they have done that about Missouri.  One kid was shot and Missouri has become a byword for a racist police state.  These "few headlines" about India are constant occurrences.  Indian society and government do not function very well.  Corruption is endemic and poverty is atrocious.  I'm not sure why these things are true, but they are.  India's economy is often compared to South Korea's.  They both started at around the same level after decolonization but South Korea became a first world economy and India stagnated.  India also has Maoist rebels for some reason.  They manage to launch some fairly spectacular attacks.

In short, the fact that India exists should not be an indicator that ethnic violence is not a serious problem.  India's society is defective, it's government incompetent, and it's leading political party is rancid.

[MadImmortalMan]

The quest for German domination was premised on the denial of science. Hitler's alternative to science was the idea of Lebensraum. Germany needed an Eastern European empire because only conquest, and not agricultural technology, offered the hope of feeding the German people. In Hitler's "Second Book," which was composed in 1928 and not published until after his death, he insisted that hunger would outstrip crop improvements and that all "the scientific methods of land management" had already failed. No conceivable improvement would allow Germans to be fed "from their own land and territory," he claimed. Hitler specifically — and wrongly — denied that irrigation, hybrids and fertilizers could change the relationship between people and land.

The author takes pains to correctly point out that Hitler was wrong in his assessment, but then goes on to ask if similar pressures will make it happen again. Nazi Germany couldn't feed its people because of dogmatic, archaic and somewhat romantic view of agriculture. Their ideal farm was a quasi-feudal fantasy.

[Razgovory]

I think it's wrong to say it was based on the denial of science.  I mean people were concerned about overpopulation then and still are.  Serious people take these ideas seriously.  In the 1970's the Population bomb was an influential book.  I wouldn't call it a "denial of science".  Fortuntaly everyone from Malthus to Ehrlich have been dead wrong and efforts to combat overpopulation have proven worse then the "disease".