STELLARIS: New Paradox Game in SPAAAACE

[Josquius]

3 different types of space travel sounds interesting.  Usually 4x space games choose one of those and go with it. Sounds like they couldn't decide which one they liked best so went with them all.

I hope there's an option to play with a  real galaxy map

[The Brain]

3 different types of space travel sounds interesting. 

Yeah. Business, Coach and Migrant.

[frunk]

The more I hear about it, the more I'm reminded of the regrettably unfinished Stars! Supernova Genesis.  Too exciting.

[Syt]

Migrant.

Tali.

[celedhring]

3 different types of space travel sounds interesting.  Usually 4x space games choose one of those and go with it. Sounds like they couldn't decide which one they liked best so went with them all.

I hope there's an option to play with a  real galaxy map

Endless Space had three space travel types too. Actually, it looks like they are the same ones.

[Ed Anger]

3 different types of space travel sounds interesting. 

Yeah. Business, Coach and Migrant.

Ahem. "Scum" class.

[Hansmeister]

I hate this aspect

planets have building slots, with special bonus slots (more research, more production) and synergies if you place similar buildings next to each other (GalCiv3 style); additionally, you need to assign workers to tiles, like in Civilization, which will then modify the production based on the worker race's abilities

What is it with all these space sims having all this centrally planned economy bs?  The economy should be developing organically based off a planetary resources, technology, and racial characteristics , which the player can nudge through the setting of policies. There should be only a few buildings related to security to be built by players.

[Razgovory]

I hate this aspect

planets have building slots, with special bonus slots (more research, more production) and synergies if you place similar buildings next to each other (GalCiv3 style); additionally, you need to assign workers to tiles, like in Civilization, which will then modify the production based on the worker race's abilities

What is it with all these space sims having all this centrally planned economy bs?  The economy should be developing organically based off a planetary resources, technology, and racial characteristics , which the player can nudge through the setting of policies. There should be only a few buildings related to security to be built by players.

Have you tried Distant Worlds?  It essentially does this, but the downside is that the game essentially plays itself.

[Hansmeister]

I hate this aspect

planets have building slots, with special bonus slots (more research, more production) and synergies if you place similar buildings next to each other (GalCiv3 style); additionally, you need to assign workers to tiles, like in Civilization, which will then modify the production based on the worker race's abilities

What is it with all these space sims having all this centrally planned economy bs?  The economy should be developing organically based off a planetary resources, technology, and racial characteristics , which the player can nudge through the setting of policies. There should be only a few buildings related to security to be built by players.

Have you tried Distant Worlds?  It essentially does this, but the downside is that the game essentially plays itself.

This is a paradox game. The emphasis should be on managing internal factions and external diplomacy, not micromanaging building placement.

For example, do you favor trade corporations?  This will lead to cheaper ships and more planetary specialization, but also lead to increased vulnerability to disruptive events since there is more interdependence between systems, also trade corporations will oppose external wars due to risk to trade routes, etc.

[Valmy]

I hate this aspect

planets have building slots, with special bonus slots (more research, more production) and synergies if you place similar buildings next to each other (GalCiv3 style); additionally, you need to assign workers to tiles, like in Civilization, which will then modify the production based on the worker race's abilities

What is it with all these space sims having all this centrally planned economy bs?  The economy should be developing organically based off a planetary resources, technology, and racial characteristics , which the player can nudge through the setting of policies. There should be only a few buildings related to security to be built by players.

I agree. Building buildings was always the most tiresome part of Paradox games.

[Jaron]

It depends on scale. If you end up with some kind of massive empire the system could become unmanageable. But if it isn't too out of control then micromanagement of a planet economy might be a suitable time filler.

[Syt]

Most 4X games (in fact: most strategy games) have the problem that the player is an all-seeing, ever-present, omnipotent entity (then again, there's plenty players who insist on that level of control or that there's no randomness in games). As Raz says, Distant Worlds allows you to hand off stuff to the AI, plus it also models a private sector of freight hauling, tourism and migration. HoI3 is also an example where you can automate as much or as little as you want. Though Vic2 probably remains the main example in the P'dox catalog for a game where you can only indirectly influence things and otherwise hope for the best ("Why are you building an artillery factory in this shitty backwater state, you stupid capitalists?!")

[garbon]

It depends on scale. If you end up with some kind of massive empire the system could become unmanageable. But if it isn't too out of control then micromanagement of a planet economy might be a suitable time filler.

A dull one, sure.

[Jaron]

It depends on scale. If you end up with some kind of massive empire the system could become unmanageable. But if it isn't too out of control then micromanagement of a planet economy might be a suitable time filler.

A dull one, sure.

Less dull than staring at the screen though. CK has a bit of this. You manage development of your various holdings. Its very basic and I think not very much thought goes into it, but it does help fill time that is otherwise unfilled. Is it the right approach? No, I think as a player I'd much prefer to be doing meaningful things. Most 4x games are turn based though so there is no need for filler. I haven't read up a lot on Stellaris, but my assumption is that the passing of time will work as it does in all other Paradox games. That means a lot of staring at the map generally.

[Barrister]

I hate this aspect

planets have building slots, with special bonus slots (more research, more production) and synergies if you place similar buildings next to each other (GalCiv3 style); additionally, you need to assign workers to tiles, like in Civilization, which will then modify the production based on the worker race's abilities

What is it with all these space sims having all this centrally planned economy bs?  The economy should be developing organically based off a planetary resources, technology, and racial characteristics , which the player can nudge through the setting of policies. There should be only a few buildings related to security to be built by players.

Hans, I understand the political point you're making, but first and foremost this is supposed to be a game.  It's generally frustrating for players to only have really indirect means of shaping your empire, rather than direct means.