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Started by Zanza, July 02, 2015, 04:06:25 PM

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Greek Referendum

The Greeks will vote No and should vote No
18 (40.9%)
The Greeks will vote No but should vote Yes
16 (36.4%)
The Greeks will vote Yes but should vote No
6 (13.6%)
The Greeks will vote Yes and should vote Yes
4 (9.1%)

Total Members Voted: 43

Tamas

Quote from: Martinus on July 06, 2015, 09:40:58 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 06, 2015, 09:08:55 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 06, 2015, 09:06:07 AM
You guys need to remember that the "lazy well paid Greeks" is to a large extent a myth perpetrated by tabloids in countries such as Germany.

Laziness has nothing to do with anything. It is about a political culture of fucking things up, making your own people suffer through your own incompetence, and then convincing them it was an evil outsiders fault. Then straighten up for a bit and then do it again.

The problem is that Syriza is not an establishment party so they, at least formally, come from outside of that culture.

Its the political culture of the country, as you well know it.

Martinus

Do you guys think Greece should get the same kind of deal as Germany did in 1953, i.e. having half of its debt written off and the other half being only repaid from export surplus?

I know that "political culture" of Greece is clearly worse than that of Germany in the 1930s/40s but still...

The Brain

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Tamas

Quote from: Martinus on July 06, 2015, 10:03:26 AM
Do you guys think Greece should get the same kind of deal as Germany did in 1953, i.e. having half of its debt written off and the other half being only repaid from export surplus?

I know that "political culture" of Greece is clearly worse than that of Germany in the 1930s/40s but still...

You answered your own question I think. If you let them off now you just postpone the crisis a few years.

Martinus


The Brain

Quote from: Martinus on July 06, 2015, 10:09:48 AM
Quote from: The Brain on July 06, 2015, 10:08:01 AM
No, of course not.
Why not?

Because Greece is a retarded country that should STFU. I'm sure my position on Greece is well known after a number of posts on this theme.
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Martinus

Quote from: The Brain on July 06, 2015, 10:12:53 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 06, 2015, 10:09:48 AM
Quote from: The Brain on July 06, 2015, 10:08:01 AM
No, of course not.
Why not?

Because Greece is a retarded country that should STFU. I'm sure my position on Greece is well known after a number of posts on this theme.

So you are just racist. Ok.  :)

Valmy

Quote from: Martinus on July 06, 2015, 10:03:26 AM
Do you guys think Greece should get the same kind of deal as Germany did in 1953, i.e. having half of its debt written off and the other half being only repaid from export surplus?

I know that "political culture" of Greece is clearly worse than that of Germany in the 1930s/40s but still...

It is worse when it comes to managing its money. Less bad when it comes to trying world conquest. But Germany got off lightly because of the Cold War, lucky them. If it was not for that well...things would have gone very badly for them indeed.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

Quote from: Martinus on July 06, 2015, 10:18:11 AM
So you are just racist. Ok.  :)

Hey if you want to put all your money in Argentinian Bonds be my guest. At least then you wont be racist or something.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Syt

It looks like Euclid Tsakalotos will be new finance minister.

I guess that might mean there's an end to Non-Euclidean financial politics.
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PJL

Also Germany was TBTF, whereas Greece isn't.

The Brain

Quote from: Martinus on July 06, 2015, 10:18:11 AM
Quote from: The Brain on July 06, 2015, 10:12:53 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 06, 2015, 10:09:48 AM
Quote from: The Brain on July 06, 2015, 10:08:01 AM
No, of course not.
Why not?

Because Greece is a retarded country that should STFU. I'm sure my position on Greece is well known after a number of posts on this theme.

So you are just racist. Ok.  :)

Why do you say that I'm racist? Non-rhetorical.
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PJL

Quote from: Syt on July 06, 2015, 10:24:25 AM
It looks like Euclid Tsakalotos will be new finance minister.

I guess that might mean there's an end to Non-Euclidean financial politics.

Looks like Syriza might now be pursing a triangulation policy WRT the debt solution.

Duque de Bragança

#178
Quote from: Syt on July 06, 2015, 10:24:25 AM
It looks like Euclid Tsakalotos will be new finance minister.

I guess that might mean there's an end to Non-Euclidean financial politics.

Beware the Lotos!  :o

PS: Τσακα as in cut(ter) of Lotos or more (budget) cuts?  :hmm:

Razgovory

I wonder when they will sell basing rights to the Russians.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017