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Started by Korea, March 10, 2009, 06:24:26 AM

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Razgovory

I thought everyone in Europe smoked.
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Eddie Teach

They did in 1960. Just like everybody in America.
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MadImmortalMan

It's so pervasive. I never became a smoker just because I couldn't stand that. Maybe a good thing. Also maybe a good thing that marijuana never gave me any good buzz.  :P

If only beer had been gross and I'd been born asexual I'd have no vices.  :lol:
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Syt

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Caliga

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Grey Fox

Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 04, 2014, 07:12:08 PM
Employees presumably have a vested interest in the continued existence of their employer, and hence their jobs.

No, they don't. Not anymore. Employers took that away when they started raising CEOs salary and shareholver value at faster rate than them.

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Admiral Yi

Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 04, 2014, 08:51:51 PM
LOL, "exorbitant demands".  When you swallow your own bullshit, do you use a hose directly or is it more of a scoop-as-you-go thing?

Totally awesome.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Razgovory on May 04, 2014, 09:12:25 PM
Presumably a Union can make non-exorbitant demands.  If a Union was to get greedy and eventually destroy itself, I would agree that would not be a bad thing.  But then I would say "Greed", is the problem not the Union.  After all many, many companies have been destroyed by the greed of their owners or upper management.  Almost certainly more then ones that have been destroyed by a greedy union.  I can agree that "Greed" is a bad thing.

You can anything you want to, but that doesn't change the fact that one worker who makes an exorbitant wage demand can't kill a company, but a union that does can.

DGuller

Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 05, 2014, 07:10:16 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 04, 2014, 09:12:25 PM
Presumably a Union can make non-exorbitant demands.  If a Union was to get greedy and eventually destroy itself, I would agree that would not be a bad thing.  But then I would say "Greed", is the problem not the Union.  After all many, many companies have been destroyed by the greed of their owners or upper management.  Almost certainly more then ones that have been destroyed by a greedy union.  I can agree that "Greed" is a bad thing.

You can anything you want to, but that doesn't change the fact that one worker who makes an exorbitant wage demand can't kill a company, but a union that does can.
Lots of things can kill the company.  On the management level, often a very small number of people can indeed kill the company without organizing.  Hell, they can kill a whole lot of workers in cold blood, for that matter.  That would not be in the workers' interests either.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Grey Fox on May 05, 2014, 07:06:21 AM
No, they don't. Not anymore. Employers took that away when they started raising CEOs salary and shareholver value at faster rate than them.

You don't want your current job to continue to exist?  Then what are doing still in it?

Syt

Kraftwerk are giving a series of concerts at the Vienna Burgtheater; each concert will be one of their album releases (in total 7 or 8). I failed to get any tickets (or rather: I'm not willing to pay 65.- for the ticket classes that are still available). :( I may try and get tickets to a Congolese troupe's interpretation of Verdi's MacBeth instead.
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—Stephen Jay Gould

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Josquius

Kraftwerk are coming to a festival in Japan this summer. I am very very tempted despite it being a stadium based affair and nobody I know being interested.
I'm just praying they don't do a stupid thing and put them on at the same time as The Horrors.
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Grey Fox

Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 05, 2014, 07:16:08 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 05, 2014, 07:06:21 AM
No, they don't. Not anymore. Employers took that away when they started raising CEOs salary and shareholver value at faster rate than them.

You don't want your current job to continue to exist?  Then what are doing still in it?

I do but no matter what I do, how I perform or how much salary I ask. If my employer decides to shut me down, I'll be shut down.
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