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DGuller

Quote from: merithyn on October 24, 2013, 08:27:43 AM
Quote from: The Larch on October 24, 2013, 08:10:36 AM
It is a bit of a circular argument, as if you claim that if mankind stopped eating beef then cattle breeds designed mostly for meat like the Angus would dissappear then you can counter argue that if mankind had never started eating beef in the first place then these breeds wouldn't exist.

Except that we can't go backwards.
Not for the lack of trying.

Razgovory

Quote from: garbon on October 24, 2013, 09:51:22 AM


It isn't a complete strawman though in the sense that many people have actually said that / protested the inhumane treatment.

At any rate, sure if you want to discount that assumed reasoning in the joke than sure her response doesn't make any sense.

Long time ago, I had this discussion with a vegan.  I asked that if nobody used animal products then wouldn't there just be billions of animals walking around that people had no desire to feed and couldn't survive on their own.  She said that if those animals would be slaughtered like the rest but be the last of batch of animals slaughtered.  She didn't seem to bothered that this would result in the near extinction of such animals, presumably for the same reason as Larch they are "artificial" in their breeds and numbers.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

The Brain

Quote from: Ideologue on October 24, 2013, 12:21:05 AM
I've always pursued my utilitarian philosophy to its logical end, which is, of course, that the extermination of all biological life will soon become morally obligatory.

Judge Death. :wub:
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

merithyn

Grilled cheese and soup for lunch today.

I love days like today. Gray, overcast, cold, wispy snow in the air..... :wub:
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

derspiess

Yep, makes you want to run into the woods and pretend to cast spells & shit :P
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

lustindarkness

Yep, makes you want to run into the woods and shoot wild animals.
Grand Duke of Lurkdom

merithyn

Quote from: derspiess on October 24, 2013, 12:56:10 PM
Yep, makes you want to run into the woods and pretend to cast spells & shit :P

:huh:

Well, it may make YOU want to do that, but it makes me want to curl up in a window seat with a good book, puppy in my lap and kitty at my neck, watching it all come down. :wub:
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

derspiess

I'm not the Wiccan or whatever it is called this week :P

Anyway, we have the same weather right now.  I plan on building a fire tonight-- it's long overdue.  I'll have the wife make guizo & will wash it down with a nice winter ale.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Habbaku

The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.

-J. R. R. Tolkien

merithyn

Quote from: derspiess on October 24, 2013, 01:07:59 PM
I'm not the Wiccan or whatever it is called this week :P

Um, pretty sure they've been called Wiccans for over 50 years now. And I'm not one of them. :)

QuoteAnyway, we have the same weather right now.  I plan on building a fire tonight-- it's long overdue.  I'll have the wife make guizo & will wash it down with a nice winter ale.

We're having Manwiches (homemade sauce), and washing it down with homemade soda. :mmm:
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Ideologue

Quote from: Razgovory on October 24, 2013, 12:17:59 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 24, 2013, 09:51:22 AM


It isn't a complete strawman though in the sense that many people have actually said that / protested the inhumane treatment.

At any rate, sure if you want to discount that assumed reasoning in the joke than sure her response doesn't make any sense.

Long time ago, I had this discussion with a vegan.  I asked that if nobody used animal products then wouldn't there just be billions of animals walking around that people had no desire to feed and couldn't survive on their own.  She said that if those animals would be slaughtered like the rest but be the last of batch of animals slaughtered.  She didn't seem to bothered that this would result in the near extinction of such animals, presumably for the same reason as Larch they are "artificial" in their breeds and numbers.

Do you have her number?
Kinemalogue
Current reviews: The 'Burbs (9/10); Gremlins 2: The New Batch (9/10); John Wick: Chapter 2 (9/10); A Cure For Wellness (4/10)

merithyn

Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Eddie Teach

I really wish people who made animated gifs would stop. Or at least slow them the fuck down.  :wacko:
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

The Brain

Women want me. Men want to be with me.

garbon

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 24, 2013, 01:25:36 PM
I really wish people who made animated gifs would stop. Or at least slow them the fuck down.  :wacko:

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.