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Started by Korea, March 10, 2009, 06:24:26 AM

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crazy canuck

Quote from: viper37 on March 12, 2026, 07:51:34 PMSpousal Loss Linked to Higher Risk of Dementia, Mortality among Men, but Not Women

That one is interesting.

Tl;Dr: women live happily ever after... :P


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Could it also be that many in that generation women are accustomed to keeping a household running while men often are not?
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Quote from: Syt on March 13, 2026, 12:22:37 AMCould it also be that many in that generation women are accustomed to keeping a household running while men often are not?
Likely that.  Men end up unable to live alone.
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Quote from: Syt on March 13, 2026, 12:22:37 AMCould it also be that many in that generation women are accustomed to keeping a household running while men often are not?

Likely not. Experiencing and learning new things is also associated with decreased dementia.

The more likely answer is social isolation and the way men and women experience that after the death of a spouse.


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Quote from: viper37 on March 13, 2026, 12:57:56 AM
Quote from: Syt on March 13, 2026, 12:22:37 AMCould it also be that many in that generation women are accustomed to keeping a household running while men often are not?
Likely that.  Men end up unable to live alone.

Men are incapable of learning to cook and clean? 
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I just checked the link and the study was of Japanese people. They have a pretty sexist/traditional society over there; so much so that many women are avoiding marriage and children entirely; I would like to see similar research for Brits/Yanks/ Germans etc etc before drawing too many conclusions.

crazy canuck

There is also a research in North America showing the difference in mortality rates. I haven't seen a study that talks about dementia though.
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Quote from: crazy canuck on March 13, 2026, 07:24:12 AMThere is also a research in North America showing the difference in mortality rates. I haven't seen a study that talks about dementia though.

They tend to live longer than us just in general though.
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crazy canuck

Yes, and the research in question was examining the impact of one variable on those life spans.
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Quote from: crazy canuck on March 13, 2026, 09:26:51 AMYes, and the research in question was examining the impact of one variable on those life spans.

Did it? It seems to suggest other factors, including some specific to Japan. And also seems like it focussed almost exclusively on the elderly "Japan Gerontological Evaluation Study"

Does the same hold true to men who lose their spouse in their 50s?
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So husbands are likely to be at least a bit older than their wives while men have noticeably shorter average lifespans than women, I believe.

So wouldn't just these two facts naturally result in the statical phenomenon in the study?

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Quote from: Valmy on March 13, 2026, 02:33:27 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 13, 2026, 09:26:51 AMYes, and the research in question was examining the impact of one variable on those life spans.

Did it? It seems to suggest other factors, including some specific to Japan. And also seems like it focussed almost exclusively on the elderly "Japan Gerontological Evaluation Study"

Does the same hold true to men who lose their spouse in their 50s?

The research I was talking about.   You know the post you responded to  :P
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All the research I saw, when I was interested in such things, pointed to a significant drop in life expectancy for widowers, even younger ones. 
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Quote from: Tamas on March 13, 2026, 06:30:49 PMSo husbands are likely to be at least a bit older than their wives while men have noticeably shorter average lifespans than women, I believe.

So wouldn't just these two facts naturally result in the statical phenomenon in the study?
Mortality studies are done on "all else being equal" basis.  If a reputable study says that there is higher mortality for a widower, it means that for the same age and health status, a man who is a widower is more likely to die within the next year than a man who is not a widower.

Syt

My takeaway so far is that it's good I never married, because I can't become a doomed widower. :P
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