The Off Topic Topic

[Iormlund]

More transparency in bills is always good.

Nobody itemizes their costs of doing business on a bill to a customer.  Transparency in billing involves the customer clearly understanding what they are being charged.  In the case of a restaurant that involves itemizing the food and drinks that were ordered. 

You've bought plane tickets lately? A car?

It would be hilariously impractical to completely itemize every cost on a car. Tens of thousands of workers and thousands of companies are involved in every car that is made.

It IS possible, since every vendor does detailed audits of their suppliers. It's just an absurd amount of information.

[Legbiter]

Fairly noticeable earthquake here in Reykjavik just now. 5,1 magnitude. Just erupt already.

[Syt]

[Josquius]

Isn't it normal that you need to speak to the manager to quit?

[Tamas]

Isn't it normal that you need to speak to the manager to quit?

A guy once told me, he got sick of the assembly line job he had, left the line, went home, and just basically ghosted the place. Didn't speak to anyone.

[Syt]

Isn't it normal that you need to speak to the manager to quit?

It's good etiquette, but in Germany/Austria it's technically not required. You can resign in writing, for example. What the sign seems to imply, though, is that you can't just say, "I'm leaving" but have to talk to your manager and area supervisor first, *before* quitting. Which seems weird. In my previous jobs I told them I'd quit, and as of what date and submitted it in writing in a personal meeting. They asked, "Anything we can do?" to which I replied, "No."

Obviously depends on the terms/conditions of your contract and jurisdiction. But if you're e.g. still in your probationary period where you can resign any time for any reason (and company can release you any time) - just saying, "kthxbye" seems a reasonable option.

For me it's the tone of the sign. "You can't just quit!"

[Josquius]

Yeah the 'no quit restaurant' bit is just weird. It being standard procedure they outline below which makes it so.

And yes. You technically can just walk away... But thats not the way things officially work. Will reflect very poorly on you in future and I believe in some countries at least, could leave you open to being sued (though unlikely for a minimum wage person at Maccies)

[mongers]

The notice primarly speaks volumes about the job and the work environment of the place, must be so pleasant, people reach a breaking point and just  up and leave the place without talking.

[Syt]

It being a relatively low stakes job, at (or if a school kid below?) minimum wage where you can just walk out and start tomorrow at a different burger joint probably plays a role.

I only recall 2 no-shows for work in 24 years of work. Both in the construction business. One was a guy we had originally contracted through a personnel leasing agency. We had a bunch of those, and some guys we had "leased" for years. Occasionally one of them would be so good that our construction crews would recommend them for permanent employment. One of them who had been working with us for 3 or 4 years, got his employment contract with us and two months later - stopped showing up to work. His boss had to go to his home to pick up some company issued equipment and some keys, and when he asked for explanation the guy didn't have one beyond, "Got all a bit much."

The other was a sales guy. He had landed a big contract with a major German corporation. When the costs vs. revenue of the contract didn't add up, management kept asking him to walk them through his calculations, but he kept deflecting. One day he walked out when senior management weren't in the office, saying he had some things to take care of, so he has to take special leave. Also didn't return. Two colleagues had to drive 300km to pick up his company car. The boss also sued him for the 20k loan he had given him when he was getting divorced.

[Sheilbh]

Isn't it normal that you need to speak to the manager to quit?

A guy once told me, he got sick of the assembly line job he had, left the line, went home, and just basically ghosted the place. Didn't speak to anyone.

I'm always in admiration of those reports (I fee always from Spain) of some junior functionary who just never turned up but was on the staff for twenty years, or the guy who did turn up to work but just read philosophy in his office.

Very much goals

[crazy canuck]

Fun fact- specific performance of employment contracts is unlawful.

[Legbiter]

It just kicked off. The fissure is about 200 meters and pretty much where expected.

[Zanza]

What are they going to do if you breach that rule? Fire you?

[Barrister]

Yes, they can't enforce it really.  But it makes sense - McDonalds probably has a lot of employees who this is their first or second job ever.  They may not realize that perhaps a problem can be talked through, rather than just storming off.

[crazy canuck]

Yes, they can't enforce it really.  But it makes sense - McDonalds probably has a lot of employees who this is their first or second job ever.  They may not realize that perhaps a problem can be talked through, rather than just storming off.

You are putting a kind spin on it.  I think it more likely that the McDonalds is counting on the fact that you people who are new to the workplace don't know that they can just quite.

If the workplace is so terrible that people feel the need to storm off, that is on the employer to deal with proactively so that it never gets to that point.  That is employee retention 101.