EU Immigration Crisis Megathread

[Syt]

Also, the farm of a married couple, who've won awards for their anti-Nazi activism, was set ablaze this week. Luckily only a barn burned down. Apparently their small village in North-East Germany had until a few years ago a signpost pointing to Braunau.

[Syt]

Several NGOs, including Doctors Without Borders, offered to help with the medical situation in the Austrian main camp - they've been rejected repeatedly by the interior ministry, because the running of the camps have been contracted to a private third party.

After the AI report, the interior ministry agreed to allow DWB into the camp, but only if they're accompanied by public health officers. DWB reject that, insisting on their independence and that having a member of state authority accompanying them would undermine their efforts to build rapport with the refugees.

[Tamas]

That is very, well, European.

[Syt]

It's harmless compared to what's happening on the Greek island of Kos.

[Archy]

It's harmless compared to what's happening on the Greek island of Kos.

They've chatered a ship as living quarters.  Wonder what their plan is

[Tamas]

It's harmless compared to what's happening on the Greek island of Kos.

Yeah but as I keep saying, this whole thing is just showing what a joke of a union the EU is. Only reason Greece is crumbling under the migrants is that they want to go further west. Each and every migrant in Greece is one less migrant in Germany, or France, or the UK.

Now of course those countries fully know this, so their answer seem to be: OMG INCREASE BORDER CONTROLS. OMG KEEP TO DUBLIN TREATY.

Instead of sending money, materials and bordercontrol/police officers to help out.

Its all well to try and stop the migrant wave on the frontiers, but then act like its actually your common frontier, not some alien country. Jeesh.

[Syt]

Absolutely agreed.

Also, a proper distribution system within the EU, based on population and economic capabilities must be established.

[Archy]

I concur. but it's easier scoring points by putting the problem with the south european countries 

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Absolutely agreed.

Also, a proper distribution system within the EU, based on population and economic capabilities must be established.

useless as these people will still go to the west.

[Zanza]

useless as these people will still go to the west.

If so, we shouldn't make it the problem of Greece or Hungary. If people want to come to e.g. Germany, Germany should handle it.

[derspiess]

So a Syrian immigrant just cancelled his asylum application to Germany saying: "I came here because I was scared in my home country, but here I'm even more scared".

Emogrant

[Crazy_Ivan80]

useless as these people will still go to the west.

If so, we shouldn't make it the problem of Greece or Hungary. If people want to come to e.g. Germany, Germany should handle it.

and what if handling it means making sure those people are stuck in Greece?...

[Zanza]

Burdening someone else with your issues is not how I understand "handling" something. But your mileage may differ.

[The Brain]

People are fleeing from Germany?

[Valmy]

Burdening someone else with your issues is not how I understand "handling" something. But your mileage may differ.

You must not work in public service.

But joking aside I think this is a pretty weak and non-functional argument. If the EU exists there should be an EU policy. The idea that Germany should be able to dictate specific treatment for immigrants headed for Germany is practically impossible. I mean think how ridiculous it would be if Illinois was supposed to handle immigrants crossing Texas (and Oklahoma and so forth) territory headed for Illinois? Ridiculous. We have a Federal Government for that. This is what the EU is supposed to handle, and it doesn't because confederations never work.