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[garbon]

Was Shepherd's murder an act of anti-gay violence?  I thought his being gay had nothing to do with it.

The article garbon posted posits the killer was his gay lover. That does not necessarily exclude the possibility this was a case of gay bashing. In fact, a lot of gay bashing happens after actual sex.

But, of course, it can also suggest that homophobia may not have been the primary motive - if a motive at all.

[Eddie Teach]

Article made it sound to me like he was after drug money and killed Shepard cause he didn't have any/wouldn't give it to him. /shrug

[The Brain]

If it could have been gay then it was gay. Mart's Law.

[viper37]

So, if an act of anti-gay violence is committed by someone who is a self-hating closeted gay himself, the act is no longer homophobic? 

Not as that phrase is usually understood, no.

I disagree. In fact I thought it was pretty common knowledge that a lot of homophobic acts are committed by closeted gays in self denial.

if you see closeted gays in self denial everywhere, then yes, it's pretty common knowledge.  For normal people, it ain't so, though.

[Martinus]

Article made it sound to me like he was after drug money and killed Shepard cause he didn't have any/wouldn't give it to him. /shrug

All the article makes it sound to me is that Shepard knew the killers and they had a complex relationship prior to the murder and that he was no saint. It does present certain alternative hypotheses, but it does not refute the hypothesis that the murder was motivated by homophobia. This makes such alternative hypotheses mere speculations, and given that the "homophobia" hypothesis seems to have been proven conclusively in the court of law, I'd rather go with the view of the jury than speculations of some hack.

Dan White was Harvey Milk's political rival; he was pissed off at him for destroying his political project; and he was most likely a homosexual in self-denial. That does not make the murder of Harvey Milk not motivated by homophobia either.

The anti gay prejudice in the society is exactly what makes some gay people so self-hating that they becoming violently homophobic. This is in fact the point the article makes near its end. This is pretty much common knowledge and most people - with the exception of closeted gay homophobes, like viper - seem to share it.

[viper37]

Apparently, there'll be a new radio station in Montreal, for gays, that plays only music made by gays, or friends of gays.
So Madonna and Britney are in because they kissed on stage.  Lady Gaga is in because she is "supportive" of LGBT rights.
Local gay artists will be played on this radio.  Hetero artists who never kissed someone of the same gender are most likely out.

I wonder how it will play.

[garbon]

Apparently, there'll be a new radio station in Montreal, for gays, that plays only music made by gays, or friends of gays.
So Madonna and Britney are in because they kissed on stage.  Lady Gaga is in because she is "supportive" of LGBT rights.
Local gay artists will be played on this radio.  Hetero artists who never kissed someone of the same gender are most likely out.

I wonder how it will play.

Sounds like it will die. SF had a dance/pop station that had as its key djs, several gay guys. Radio show in the morning was gay guys. One day it was suddenly replaced by a hip-hop station. It had been bought out. I'm not sure why a more restrictive station would fare better in Montreal.

[Malthus]

Apparently, there'll be a new radio station in Montreal, for gays, that plays only music made by gays, or friends of gays.
So Madonna and Britney are in because they kissed on stage.  Lady Gaga is in because she is "supportive" of LGBT rights.
Local gay artists will be played on this radio.  Hetero artists who never kissed someone of the same gender are most likely out.

I wonder how it will play.

Can't imagine there is a big enough audience of gays who care more about exclusivity than about playing whatever music they want to hear.

[garbon]

Apparently, there'll be a new radio station in Montreal, for gays, that plays only music made by gays, or friends of gays.
So Madonna and Britney are in because they kissed on stage.  Lady Gaga is in because she is "supportive" of LGBT rights.
Local gay artists will be played on this radio.  Hetero artists who never kissed someone of the same gender are most likely out.

I wonder how it will play.

Can't imagine there is a big enough audience of gays who care more about exclusivity than about playing whatever music they want to hear.

Yeah seems like it would only be of interest to those gays interested in forming a completely separate society.  Maybe Montreal has a high proportion of those?

[Maximus]

Yeah seems like it would only be of interest to those gays interested in forming a completely separate society.  Maybe Montreal has a high proportion of those?

They call it a distinct society.

[Martinus]

Apparently, there'll be a new radio station in Montreal, for gays, that plays only music made by gays, or friends of gays.
So Madonna and Britney are in because they kissed on stage.  Lady Gaga is in because she is "supportive" of LGBT rights.
Local gay artists will be played on this radio.  Hetero artists who never kissed someone of the same gender are most likely out.

I wonder how it will play.

Can't imagine there is a big enough audience of gays who care more about exclusivity than about playing whatever music they want to hear.

Now, if they started to call for the death of all muslims, that could probably get more traction among Montreal gays.

[Martinus]

Yeah seems like it would only be of interest to those gays interested in forming a completely separate society.  Maybe Montreal has a high proportion of those?

They call it a distinct society.

We prefer the word "demimonde". 

[Siege]

Gay people suck!

[garbon]

Gay people suck!

Well yes.

[Siege]

I love Dr Dre.
Great businessman, great composer.