Will science prove the existence of parallel universes!?

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Razgovory

#30
March 27, 2015, 01:43:31 PM
Actually that has become the norm with theology as well.  Most people have a very poor grasp of it.  For instance, the concept of "intelligent design", is a philosophical idea that tends to get thrown in with "creationism" by the poorly informed who often characterized these two distinct concepts with the same phrase "GOD DID IT".
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Valmy

#31
March 27, 2015, 02:41:29 PM Last Edit: March 27, 2015, 02:43:34 PM by Valmy
Quote from: Razgovory on March 27, 2015, 01:43:31 PM
Actually that has become the norm with theology as well.  Most people have a very poor grasp of it.  For instance, the concept of "intelligent design", is a philosophical idea that tends to get thrown in with "creationism" by the poorly informed who often characterized these two distinct concepts with the same phrase "GOD DID IT".

Wait so you are telling me poorly informed people are sometimes wrong about things they are poorly informed about? Fascinating.

I would be interested to hear what you regard as the distinctions, actually.
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Eddie Teach

#32
March 27, 2015, 03:18:56 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 27, 2015, 02:41:29 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 27, 2015, 01:43:31 PM
Actually that has become the norm with theology as well.  Most people have a very poor grasp of it.  For instance, the concept of "intelligent design", is a philosophical idea that tends to get thrown in with "creationism" by the poorly informed who often characterized these two distinct concepts with the same phrase "GOD DID IT".

Wait so you are telling me poorly informed people are sometimes wrong about things they are poorly informed about? Fascinating.

I would be interested to hear what you regard as the distinctions, actually.

For one, ID doesn't reject evolution.
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Valmy

#33
March 27, 2015, 03:22:49 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 27, 2015, 03:18:56 PM

For one, ID doesn't reject evolution.

Yes my understanding was that ID just took science as proof of God since only God could have designed the world so perfectly. Which is fine but since it does not really add or subtract anything current science, it sounded like a theological concept. Pretty harmless, I am not sure why it upsets people. But then I was interested to know what Raz thought since he seemed to feel strongly about it.
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derspiess

#34
March 27, 2015, 03:24:42 PM
I see where Raz is coming from.  I've seen quite a bit of Evangelical Atheists addressing Intelligent Design proponents as if they were evolution deniers.
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Valmy

#35
March 27, 2015, 03:30:11 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 27, 2015, 03:24:42 PM
I see where Raz is coming from.  I've seen quite a bit of Evangelical Atheists addressing Intelligent Design proponents as if they were evolution deniers.

Some of these new Atheists types just indicate to me that, sadly, the problem is not religion (even super crazy ones) so much as people. I mean insular anti-theist cults? We are all doomed.
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Razgovory

#36
March 27, 2015, 03:33:46 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 27, 2015, 03:22:49 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 27, 2015, 03:18:56 PM

For one, ID doesn't reject evolution.

Yes my understanding was that ID just took science as proof of God since only God could have designed the world so perfectly. Which is fine but since it does not really add or subtract anything current science, it sounded like a theological concept. Pretty harmless, I am not sure why it upsets people. But then I was interested to know what Raz thought since he seemed to feel strongly about it.

It's not a scientific concept.  It's a philosophical one.  And Derspeiss is correct, many people conflate the two, even on this board.  Creationism attempts to rebut science, intelligent design does no such thing.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

The Brain

#37
March 27, 2015, 04:57:31 PM
Intelligent Design is retarded, and retarded is enough.
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lustindarkness

#38
March 27, 2015, 05:23:51 PM
Quote from: The Brain on March 27, 2015, 04:57:31 PM
Intelligent Design is retarded, and retarded is enough.

That term is no longer PC, how about we use some other word? Some choices: stupid and moronic.
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The Brain

#39
March 27, 2015, 05:30:02 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on March 27, 2015, 05:23:51 PM
Quote from: The Brain on March 27, 2015, 04:57:31 PM
Intelligent Design is retarded, and retarded is enough.

That term is no longer PC, how about we use some other word? Some choices: stupid and moronic.

:mad: Speak for yourself.
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lustindarkness

#40
March 27, 2015, 06:14:06 PM
LOL
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Razgovory

#41
March 27, 2015, 08:48:30 PM
Quote from: The Brain on March 27, 2015, 04:57:31 PM
Intelligent Design is retarded, and retarded is enough.

And to a person who belches predigested phrases like "Sky Fairies" at every opportunity, clear distinctions are meaningless.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Valmy

#42
March 27, 2015, 09:15:29 PM
Raz is a true defender of the faith. Which faith I am not sure.
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Ed Anger

#43
March 27, 2015, 09:26:15 PM
Raz is a good man, hating Athiests is the right thing to do.
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The Brain

#44
March 28, 2015, 04:15:57 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 27, 2015, 08:48:30 PM
Quote from: The Brain on March 27, 2015, 04:57:31 PM
Intelligent Design is retarded, and retarded is enough.

And to a person who belches predigested phrases like "Sky Fairies" at every opportunity, clear distinctions are meaningless.

These days I normally use "Sky Santa", but I guess the distinction is lost on you people.
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