Germanwings Flight Carrying at Least 148 Crashes in Southern France

[jimmy olsen]

So apparently one pilot was locked out of the cockpit just before the descent began. Whether the pilot left inside was incapacitated or doing it willfully is left unknown, but the black box has audio of the outside pilot trying to smash open the door.

I think this is gonna get weird.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/26/world/europe/germanwings-airbus-crash.html?_r=0

The guy could have had a heart attack or a stroke, it doesn't have to have been on purpose. Though yeah, this would have been super terrifying for the passangers.

[DGuller]

So apparently one pilot was locked out of the cockpit just before the descent began. Whether the pilot left inside was incapacitated or doing it willfully is left unknown, but the black box has audio of the outside pilot trying to smash open the door.

I think this is gonna get weird.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/26/world/europe/germanwings-airbus-crash.html?_r=0

The guy could have had a heart attack or a stroke, it doesn't have to have been on purpose. Though yeah, this would have been super terrifying for the passangers.

If the cockpit doors really can be opened only from the inside, then is there ever a situation where a single person would be allowed to be in the cockpit at any given time?  It seems like a completely unnecessary lack of redundancy against an easily foreseeable occurrence.

[jimmy olsen]

So apparently one pilot was locked out of the cockpit just before the descent began. Whether the pilot left inside was incapacitated or doing it willfully is left unknown, but the black box has audio of the outside pilot trying to smash open the door.

I think this is gonna get weird.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/26/world/europe/germanwings-airbus-crash.html?_r=0

The guy could have had a heart attack or a stroke, it doesn't have to have been on purpose. Though yeah, this would have been super terrifying for the passangers.

If the cockpit doors really can be opened only from the inside, then is there ever a situation where a single person would be allowed to be in the cockpit at any given time?  It seems like a completely unnecessary lack of redundancy against an easily foreseeable occurrence.

Isn't the doors automatically locking a post nine eleven precaution?

[Liep]

If the cockpit doors really can be opened only from the inside, then is there ever a situation where a single person would be allowed to be in the cockpit at any given time?  It seems like a completely unnecessary lack of redundancy against an easily foreseeable occurrence.

Isn't the doors automatically locking a post nine eleven precaution?

Yes, I think what he meant was that a stewardess should then be in the cockpit in the event of one of the pilots leaving it. This couldn't have been the case here.

[Caliga]

Some dude on CNN was saying that if a pilot leaves the cockpit, someone else from the flight crew is supposed to go in there in order to prevent situations like this.

[PDH]

Some dude on CNN was saying that if a pilot leaves the cockpit, someone else from the flight crew is supposed to go in there in order to prevent situations like this.

I saw this on my flight back to Californian last week.  The copilot needed to piss and so one of the Flight Attendants jumped into the cockpit to give the pilot a quickie while the number 2 took a leak.

[Caliga]

I've never noticed that before, but then again I usually don't sit that close to the cockpit, and I'm typically staring at my iPhone or Android the whole time.

[Razgovory]

Some dude on CNN was saying that if a pilot leaves the cockpit, someone else from the flight crew is supposed to go in there in order to prevent situations like this.

I saw this on my flight back to Californian last week.  The copilot needed to piss and so one of the Flight Attendants jumped into the cockpit to give the pilot a quickie while the number 2 took a leak.

Huh, I guess the guy going to the bathroom missed out.

[mongers]

Perhaps it was 'mass suicide' by pilot? 

If so then it might be becoming enough of a trend for procedures to have to be put in place?

[Monoriu]

Perhaps it was 'mass suicide' by pilot? 

If so then it might be becoming enough of a trend for procedures to have to be put in place?

What procedures can reliably tell if a pilot will commit mass suicide or not? 

[Razgovory]

He was jealous of the other Pilot and his quickie with the stewardess.

[KRonn]

Some dude on CNN was saying that if a pilot leaves the cockpit, someone else from the flight crew is supposed to go in there in order to prevent situations like this.

That's what I figured was likely the process.

[Tamas]

I am quite certain this was a suicide.

The other alternative is this not exactly likely sequence of events:
-one pilot becomes sick/has a stroke/whatever
-other is dumb enough to leave for a moment
-door malfunctions and doesnt let him back in
-all this happens above the Alps of all places
-the plane descends in a fast but controlled manner until it crashes to a mountain side

compare that to:
-guy wants to off himself and the passengers
-convinces the other guy to leave
-locks him out
-crashes the plane

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Perhaps it was 'mass suicide' by pilot? 

better use the term mass murder for such a scenario

[Maladict]

BBC:

The co-pilot of the Germanwings flight that crashed into the French Alps took sole control of plane and intentionally started the descent, officials say.