Protection of religious views and behaviours

[Martinus]

I just don't think there should be any "reasonable accomodation" for religious people. Everyone should be allowed to do the same irrespective of the reason they do it.

So if you can tell a fashionista he can't wear a headscarf if he wants to work for you, you should be able to tell the same to a muslim woman if she insists on wearing a head scarf to work.

That's kind of a "the law prevents both the rich and the poor from sleeping under bridges" kind of dilemma though.

Look, living in the West the law has been shaped in numerous ways to reflect the religious sensibilities of Christians.  You don't have to worry about getting Christmas Day off, it already is a national holiday.  Plus of course Christianity as a whole doesn't demand a lot of individual acts.

It's only the religious minorities requirements that run into problems with the law.  I'm sure there's no law in Saudi Arabia against covering up your face for precisely this reason.

Again, I'm for the broadest possible freedom for everyone. But all should be equal under law as well.

[Martinus]

Giving beliefs greater protection just because they happen to be false doesn't strike me as being the way forward.

I think atheists have just been too nice. We should just start saying more loudly that religious people are simply stupid.

Does that mean you would be stupid if you were religious?

Marty, you gonna answer this one?

Why would I answe a troll? But yes, if I were religious I would be stupid.

[Sheilbh]

This is a different question than the one I was asking.

I am all for letting people do what they want to their bodies for whatever reason. What I oppose is being allowed to do something that another people cannot do, only because one motivation is religious and another isn't.

Sorry I was replying to Ivan.

[garbon]

I just don't think there should be any "reasonable accomodation" for religious people. Everyone should be allowed to do the same irrespective of the reason they do it.

So if you can tell a fashionista he can't wear a headscarf if he wants to work for you, you should be able to tell the same to a muslim woman if she insists on wearing a head scarf to work.

I think anyone should be free to wear a headscarf (or dye their hair ) for whatever reason and maintain their employment.

[Martinus]

garbon, I agree.

[Razgovory]

Giving beliefs greater protection just because they happen to be false doesn't strike me as being the way forward.

I think atheists have just been too nice. We should just start saying more loudly that religious people are simply stupid.

Does that mean you would be stupid if you were religious?

Marty, you gonna answer this one?

Why would I answe a troll? But yes, if I were religious I would be stupid.

This is not a troll, but an attempt to establish motive.  You want to be smart, to be smart in your mind requires you to be an atheist.  Atheism is a crutch to hold up your ego.  Realistically you wouldn't be any dumber if you were religious.  You wouldn't forget how to add sums or be unable to find where you put your keys or forget how to do your job.  Don't worry, a lot of atheists become atheists because they want to convince themselves and others they are smart.  In fact, I would say that is a primary motive for atheism.  That's why a lot of people become atheists in their teens, when they are at their most insecure about themselves.

[The Brain]

 

[The Brain]

Why did you change the question?

Because the question created a false premise which most of the people posting in this thread seemed to accept.

Which false premise?

That "greater" protection is given.  Freedom of religion is not an absolute right which trumps other rights as the OP suggests.

[Martinus]

Actually I was very religious in my teens. I planned go become a Catholic priest. I was about 22 when I turned atheist.

[Siege]

Giving beliefs greater protection just because they happen to be false doesn't strike me as being the way forward.

I think atheists have just been too nice. We should just start saying more loudly that religious people are simply stupid.

Does that mean you would be stupid if you were religious?

Marty, you gonna answer this one?

What a bigoted question.

I am religious and I am not stupid.

[grumbler]

I find it interesting that it is a lawyer who argues that motive should be ignored under the law.  I think that all right-minded people disagree with that position, and some lawyers do as well.

[Berkut]

I just don't think there should be any "reasonable accomodation" for religious people. Everyone should be allowed to do the same irrespective of the reason they do it.

So if you can tell a fashionista he can't wear a headscarf if he wants to work for you, you should be able to tell the same to a muslim woman if she insists on wearing a head scarf to work.

I don't agree with that at all.

[Berkut]

Wow, I thought I was an atheist because I didn't believe in god...curious.

[Sheilbh]

Secularism v laicite, round 278

[grumbler]

Wow, I thought I was an atheist because I didn't believe in god...curious.

That's because you didn't have Raz to tell you why you do what you do.

Of course, he is atheistic regarding the 99.9999+% of the gods that people have believed in, so he is 99.9999+% (but only 99.9999+%) motivated by his desire to convince himself and others that he is smart.